The Ultimates -Vs- Darkseid

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You are trying to preach to me yet you doubt even know the rules of the board. Crossover stuff is inadmissible. Tighten up before you try to come at me. And like I said, that isn't lowballing. I never use the Batman low showing to lower Darkseids power level, I simply said Batman was able to dodge them. Stop trying to get me to take it back because I'm not.

I'm showing you how flawed your logic is. And again you simply try to find ways around it. You constantly use the high feats for marvel characters and then bring up the low ones for DC. Yes, using his worst feat in history as a way to say they can dodge them is lowballing. Also yes he was able to dodge them. If you aren't trying to lowball then there's no reason to bring up his lowest feat in history.

Also yes you compared Batmans speed to the heralds and tried to say they could dodge because Batman did

Also, don't bring up rules when you are constantly breaking the no PIS and Full capacity rule 😐

Um, what constant high feats do I show for Marvel? I'm not a feats guy. Don't be mad because bringing up Omega Beams didn't have the desired effect. The bottom line is they have failed on more than one occasion.....with multiple charcters. Nothing faulty about stating facts. Now, you straight with the board rules? Never embarass yourself by bringing up crossovers and drawing conclusions about power levels, no one ever makes that mistake.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Um, what constant high feats do I show for Marvel? I'm not a feats guy. Don't be mad because bringing up Omega Beams didn't have the desired effect. The bottom line is they have failed on more than one occasion.....with multiple charcters. Nothing faulty about stating facts. Now, you straight with the board rules? Never embarass yourself by bringing up crossovers and drawing conclusions about power levels, no one ever makes that mistake.

Wow still ignoring that your own logic has flaws and you still are trying to get around it. Not surprised. You brought up rules yet you constantly break the "PIS" rule. Failed multiple times? Of course never said they didn't. Who did it exactly? Pre Crisis superman was one who is a lot faster than most of the people here. However, on average PC superman was tagged more than he dodged them.

Now since you want to keep derailing this thread with your petty lowballing let's get back on track.

Darksied has mind controlled PC superman AND Martian Manhunter at the same time
He stole Cyborg Supermans Soul
He caused a huge collapse with his time manipulation
http://imgur.com/a/4az6k
He turned Slobo into a Statue with matter manipulation and completely incinerated Kalibak
With TK he shut down the Legion of Superheroes
And his omega beams have consistently caught and one shotted heralds

Team doesn't win a thing here

Originally posted by carver9
When has the Omegas in DCNU hit intangible beings?

Lol.

PreFlashpoint, carv.

Oh, and by the by:

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Now, you straight with the board rules? Never embarass yourself by bringing up crossovers and drawing conclusions about power levels, no one ever makes that mistake.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Proof if what? Venom engaged Superman. Deathstroke engaged Wonderwoman. Black Panther engaged Namor.

Glad some people have learnt the rules!

Darkseid, easily.

Originally posted by carver9
Also...

Tanked the Omegas and then snatched his eye out. After that she did this.

http://i.imgur.com/cNaD6Uj.png

And the outpaced the Omegas. The team has a chance...a good chance. I just have faith that Darkseid will prevail in the end.

Later he oneshotted PG, Val Zod, Dr Fate and Alan Scott together when Alan was channeling the power every earth in Multiverse.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

PreFlashpoint, carv.

Oh, and by the by:

Glad some people have learnt the rules!

Really? You did a search for that? Different context, dude. I was talking about how lower characters often engage and are not dominated by higher ones all the time in comics. He was actually using a crossover scenario as continuity/proof.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darksied was weakened in that entire series.

Later he oneshotted PG, Val Zod, Dr Fate and Alan Scott together when Alan was channeling the power every earth in Multiverse.

There you are with your bullshit crutch excuse again. Everyone you don't like losing was "weakened." HTF do you even weaken a character like Darkseid? Get out of here with that weak sauce. Powergirl "pushed his shit in", the ancient phrase you love to wear out. The shit counts, period. She snatched his eye out during a fight, one is which he was landing blows just fine. Weakened..... 🤨

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
There you are with your bullshit crutch excuse again. Everyone you don't like losing was "weakened." HTF do you even weaken a character like Darkseid? Get out of here with that weak sauce. Powergirl "pushed his shit in", the ancient phrase you love to wear out. The shit counts, period. She snatched his eye out during a fight, one is which he was landing blows just fine. Weakened..... 🤨

😂

Here is how PG does against Darkseid.

http://imgur.com/a/hTLOy

Http://imgur.com/a/yHhuM

He stomped a whole team with her in three pages.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Really? You did a search for that? Different context, dude. I was talking about how lower characters often engage and are not dominated by higher ones all the time in comics. He was actually using a crossover scenario as continuity/proof.

And I'm doing it to show you that your logic is flawed

Originally posted by Decter
And I'm doing it to show you that your logic is flawed

No, you did it as evidence of one's power level in a fictitious A/B /C argument. Don't lie, that's exactly what you did. Need I quote you?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No, you did it as evidence of one's power level.

Originally posted by Decter
And Darksied beat surfer

So by your logic

Superman > Darksied > Surfer

But PIS aside it is clear that Darksied is far above superman. Unless you think Darksied one shotting him in one scene and then losing the next makes sense?

I said that by going by YOUR logic, pre flashpoint superman would be stronger than Silver surfer which I already know you disagree with.

Being allowed or not was not part of why I brought it up. It was brought up because Darksied is constantly portrayed above Superman. However, it is considered PIS for superman beating Darksied unless context was involved.

I didn't even mention surfer in my first post with the OB either when I was listing off people he one shotted.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
in a fictitious A/B /C argument. Don't lie, that's exactly what you did. Need I quote you?

Lol you use more ABC logic then anyone here

I also liked how you ignored my post again

Originally posted by Decter
Wow still ignoring that your own logic has flaws and you still are trying to get around it. Not surprised. You brought up rules yet you constantly break the "PIS" rule. Failed multiple times? Of course never said they didn't. Who did it exactly? Pre Crisis superman was one who is a lot faster than most of the people here. However, on average PC superman was tagged more than he dodged them.

Now since you want to keep derailing this thread with your petty lowballing let's get back on track.

Darksied has mind controlled PC superman AND Martian Manhunter at the same time
He stole Cyborg Supermans Soul
He caused a huge collapse with his time manipulation
http://imgur.com/a/4az6k
He turned Slobo into a Statue with matter manipulation and completely incinerated Kalibak
With TK he shut down the Legion of Superheroes
And his omega beams have consistently caught and one shotted heralds

Team doesn't win a thing here

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You know a human has dodged them, right?

When did a human dodge them?

I hope you don't mean Batman because that only happened in the cartoon.

Think he is talking about this scene...

Originally posted by carver9
Think he is talking about this scene...

😆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darksied was weakened in that entire series.

Later he oneshotted PG, Val Zod, Dr Fate and Alan Scott together when Alan was channeling the power every earth in Multiverse.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was stated clearly in the comic. That's why Apokolips went to war against Earth in the first place.

😂

Here is how PG does against Darkseid.

http://imgur.com/a/hTLOy

Http://imgur.com/a/yHhuM

He stomped a whole team with her in three pages.

I just read pretty much every title dealing with Earth 2 this past weekend.
Don't know why I put it off like that.
It was ****ing amazing.

Originally posted by carver9
Think he is talking about this scene...

I hope not since Batman didn't dodge the OB's there.

I don't know why people give Blue Area Vet any attention, the dude is beyond delusional at this point.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
When did a human dodge them?

I hope you don't mean Batman because that only happened in the cartoon.