Originally posted by carver9Real world logic is basically logic. There is only one kind of logic. Think about it. How else can we prove anything in comics? What type of logic do you think we use?
Real world logic in a comic book.
Anyway, when real world logic can not be applied then we just accept it. But when real world logic can be applied to prove something then we use it.
Originally posted by Magnon
I guess you should first prove that WBH was emitting lethal amounts of radiation, if we start to require proofs.
lethal? well, guess that's never explicitly stated, but it looks pretty damn lethal to me:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2973290-5581055555-17713.jpg
sue has them in forcefields to prevent them from....what? having bad hair days?
and again here (there are several other examples that clearly show the amount of pure energy and radiation the hulk gives off when he gets to this level of anger), they can't even look at him, let alone approach him and attack him here--and recall--he's not even AT full world breaker yet:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2973291-1510496477-26850.jpg
as far as barry going intangible and phasing out organs of something--i'd shudder to think of hulk's healing factor at this level and wasn't there a time vision was trapped intangible inside hulk? something about his body being too powerful to get out of? IF that's true, this hulk makes THAT 'powerful' hulk look like a pre-schooler, and i could only imagine what trying to phase inside him would do to barry. could it work? maybe. i'd say it would be very unlikely and far less than that in an actual comic.
Originally posted by leonidasNice proofs. 👆
lethal? well, guess that's never explicitly stated, but it looks pretty damn lethal to me:http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2973290-5581055555-17713.jpg
sue has them in forcefields to prevent them from....what? having bad hair days?
and again here (there are several other examples that clearly show the amount of pure energy and radiation the hulk gives off when he gets to this level of anger), they can't even look at him, let alone approach him and attack him here--and recall--he's not even AT full world breaker yet:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2973291-1510496477-26850.jpg
as far as barry going intangible and phasing out organs of something--i'd shudder to think of hulk's healing factor at this level and wasn't there a time vision was trapped intangible inside hulk? something about his body being too powerful to get out of? IF that's true, this hulk makes THAT 'powerful' hulk look like a pre-schooler, and i could only imagine what trying to phase inside him would do to barry. could it work? maybe. i'd say it would be very unlikely and far less than that in an actual comic.
Now explain why the entire city didn't die of radiation poisoning. sly
Originally posted by leonidas
lethal? well, guess that's never explicitly stated, but it looks pretty damn lethal to me:http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2973290-5581055555-17713.jpg
sue has them in forcefields to prevent them from....what? having bad hair days?
and again here (there are several other examples that clearly show the amount of pure energy and radiation the hulk gives off when he gets to this level of anger), they can't even look at him, let alone approach him and attack him here--and recall--he's not even AT full world breaker yet:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2973291-1510496477-26850.jpg
as far as barry going intangible and phasing out organs of something--i'd shudder to think of hulk's healing factor at this level and wasn't there a time vision was trapped intangible inside hulk? something about his body being too powerful to get out of? IF that's true, this hulk makes THAT 'powerful' hulk look like a pre-schooler, and i could only imagine what trying to phase inside him would do to barry. could it work? maybe. i'd say it would be very unlikely and far less than that in an actual comic.
I think you are being dishonest. Where are these Sue's supposed force fields in that scan? I hope you don't refer to the pressure waves coming out of the Hulk. And where's this supposed lethality? The heroes were being pushed back, that's it; no one died. And why bring Vision into this? His phasing is based on a totally different mechanism than that of Flash, and it isn't backed up by the Speed Force. Irrelevant.
pressure waves? never saw them as that, always saw them as forcefields. you can even see reed pushing against one.......
even if you have a problem with that, carv's scan shows the effects of his body's radiation on BULLETS no less--and again, that is a SEVERELY lesser hulk.
and vision's phasing isn't intrinsically different at all. he willfully decreases his density by separating the atoms in his body. flash increases the atomic energy in his body, thereby forcing space between his atoms and allowing them to pass through solid material. different starting mechanisms, identical results. both remain 'physical' to an extent, unlike, say, martian manhunter who shunts matter away, or a ghost who has no 'matter'.
@galan: i always wondered the same thing... 😮 comic book physics? i know i'm forgetting an instance where the radiation coming off him had impacts on someone directly. can't recall for the life of me where though.... i know in the exiles, hulk's free-flowing radiation prevented blink's power working on him, and was killing mimic....
i'd look harder but...i don't care all that much about this topic. 😂
^ I'd agree with that.
Anyway, I saw someone say that the Speed Force protects Flash from radiation. Which is true. If it didn't, he wouldn't be able to move at the speeds he does, without the nuclear fission from friction completely evaporating him. Plus, I might be remembering this wrong, but didn't he run into the sun and survive or something like that?
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
^ I'd agree with that.Anyway, I saw someone say that the Speed Force protects Flash from radiation. Which is true. If it didn't, he wouldn't be able to move at the speeds he does, without the nuclear fission from friction completely evaporating him. Plus, I might be remembering this wrong, but didn't he run into the sun and survive or something like that?
ran into the sun? not that i know of....at least not post crisis. if that happened, i'd love to see it. how would he even get there? and i absolutely don't think he's immune to radiation. at all. friction isn't radiation, so i'm not sure where that's coming from. his aura keeps him from being lit on fire as he passes through the air. that's....a far cry from being immune to radiation. iirc he had a run in at some point with the atomic skull or someone like that and he was certainly not immune to whoever's powers they were. dr polaris is certainly affected him and he controls EM radiation. or is barry now only immune to hulk-type radiation for the purposes of this thread? of course he withered away in the classic anti-monitor scene as well, though that may be viewed as being a bit different.
anyway, i've literally no clue where this notion that flash is immune to radiation is coming from. i know flash....pretty well, and i've NEVER seen any indication that he is immune to radiation. i await on panel confirmation of said immunity. if none is forthcoming, the entire idea should be dropped as ridiculous misinformation.
^ Aside from the Speed Force shielding him from the 'cons' of moving FTL, Flash's suit is also frictionless. Ergo, no self-evaporation when he runs. 👆
Originally posted by carver9Yes, but it takes decadeS(at a minimum) for high-levels of radiation to dissipate to safe levels. Look at Chernobyl, ffs. srsly
The city was evacuated, so there was no humans to feel the radiation.
