Honors go out for Hotness
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/06/charlie-theron-brooklyn-d_n_602140.html
I dont see why not. Women have always been celebrated for their looks.
All the winners were good choices, especially Charlize and Scarlett. I fully expect Scarlett to eventually win Charlize's award.
Originally posted by riv6672
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/06/charlie-theron-brooklyn-d_n_602140.htmlI dont see why not. Women have always been celebrated for their looks.
All the winners were good choices, especially Charlize and Scarlett. I fully expect Scarlett to eventually win Charlize's award.
The excessive focus on looks that society puts on women is detrimental to their ability to achieve things as they are often dismissed for anything other than their looks. That is (one of) the issue(s) with things like that.
Originally posted by Bardock42
The excessive focus on looks that society puts on women is detrimental to their ability to achieve things as they are often dismissed for anything other than their looks. That is (one of) the issue(s) with things like that.
Now, who thinks Brooklyn Decker looks like Charlize Theron?
Originally posted by Bardock42Charlize has won an Oscar, though. And she looked like this in the role:
is detrimental to their ability to achieve things as they are often dismissed for anything other than their looks
I wouldn't class that as being "dismissed for anything other than her looks" (but I do get your general point).
Originally posted by Scribble
Charlize has won an Oscar, though. And she looked like this in the role:I wouldn't class that as being "dismissed for anything other than her looks" (but I do get your general point).
I did say "often", and I'm glad you get my point. Just as a thought though, perhaps you could speak out in support of it next time if you agree, instead of nit-picking, particularly since others will already take that part, I don't think we need a devil's advocate, especially of something that wasn't said...
Originally posted by riv6672
Cant say i agree.
Its always interesting to hear this opinion though.
A lot of studies have been done on attractiveness, and neither sex is getting short thrift.Now, who thinks Brooklyn Decker looks like Charlize Theron?
Being attractive within your gender is advantageous over not being attractive, that is true. However the excessive focus on attractiveness in women does limit their options in other endeavours. It's only part of a bigger picture of course.
I did say "often", and I'm glad you get my point. Just as a thought though, perhaps you could speak out in support of it next time if you agree, instead of nit-picking, particularly since others will already take that part, I don't think we need a devil's advocate, especially of something that wasn't said...
Originally posted by riv6672
Not looking to change my posting style any time soon.
Been pissing people off, or getting along fine with them, for 15 years as i am. Hopefully you're in the latter group.
And yeah, i totally got your point.
I don't have a problem with you (or Scribble for that matter), and disagreement on an issue doesn't mean I can't get along fine with someone.
Originally posted by Slay
You really have become a liberal version of Star. Do you ever switch off?
I don't always talk about sexism in society, but I never "switch off" disliking it.
Originally posted by Bardock42Right, sorry, you were referring to the way that ('typically'😉 attractive women being idolised can limit other women's choices. I thought you meant that actresses such as Charlize and Scarlett's artistic output is ignored due to them being attractive.
I did say "often", and I'm glad you get my point. Just as a thought though, perhaps you could speak out in support of it next time if you agree, instead of nit-picking, particularly since others will already take that part, I don't think we need a devil's advocate, especially of something that wasn't said...
Personally, I think we've made a lot of progress with perceptions of attractiveness and the like, and that less 'perfect' women, i.e. regular people not chosen just because they have a pretty face, are gaining more success and respect than they would have say, ten, fifteen years ago (we still have a long way to come, of course), and I don't think it's a good idea to just stop heralding people for being beautiful and the like in the name of 'progress'. Charlize and Scarlett are beautiful, there's no need to diminish that truth, there are plenty of other ways to cultivate equality. We can highlight how attractiveness is incredibly subjective without getting rid of "Most Attractive" lists. And generally, I do most of my outspoken anti-sexist stuff offline, which is where I think it has the most potential to do good. I'm honestly surprised at the amount of times at uni that I've had to explain to people that gender inequality is a real thing, and that it hasn't just "gone away", as well as how "feminism" isn't a dirty word.
I hope you understand where I am coming from, I am dedicated to fighting sexism as it appears, but I don't think lists such as this (old as it is) are worthy of complaint. They will exist in worlds of both equality and inequality, as will lists of the most attractive male actors, celebrities, etc.