Originally posted by Lord Stark
No they never paired the two because in ROTS Grievous says 'I was expecting you to be older'.As for this fight.
"Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.16 published an Infinities version of "ARC Troopers" in which the Battle of Kamino is depicted differently. In that version, Skywalker confronts General Grievous on an outer landing platform, while Obi-Wan Kenobi intercepts Ventress at the DNA archive room. During his duel with Ventress, Kenobi slices off her right arm and Force-pushes her other lightsaber out of reach, allowing her to be taken prisoner by a squad of Advanced Recon Commandos. Meanwhile, Skywalker fiercely duels Grievous and eventually manages to sever all four of his mechanical arms, and the cyborg is taken into custody alongside Ventress. Following the battle, Grievous refuses to submit to Jedi interrogation and is imprisoned by the Jedi High Council in the deepest level of the galactic capital of Coruscant, left in his dismembered state. The Jedi Council also attempts to bring Ventress back into the light, seeing if they can purge her anger so that she might be able to offer intelligence on Count Dooku's Sith Master, Darth Sidious."
Sounds about white.
Great Scott!
That would so screw up the timeline!
The passage concerning Kenobi's form being ideal to fight Grievous, for those interested:
Before Obi-Wan had left Coruscant, Mace Windu had told him of facing Grievous in single combat atop a mag-lev train during the general's daring raid to capture Palpatine. Mace had told him how the computers slaved to Grievous's brain had apparently analyzed even Mace's unconventionally lethal Vaapad and had been able to respond in kind after a single exchange.
"He must have been trained by Count Dooku," Mace had said, "so you can expect Makashi as well; given the number of Jedi he has fought and slain, you must expect that he can attack in any style, or all of them. In fact, Obi-Wan, I believe that of all living Jedi, you have the best chance to defeat him."
This pronouncement had startled Obi-Wan, and he had protested. After all, the only form in which he was truly even proficient was Soresu, which was the most common lightsaber form in the Jedi Order. Founded upon the basic deflection principles all Padawans were taught-to enable them to protect themselves from blaster bolts-Soresu was very simple, and so restrained and defense-oriented that it was very nearly downright passive.
"But surely, Master Windu," Obi-Wan had said, "you, with the power of Vaapad-or Yoda's mastery of Ataro-"
Mace Windu had almost smiled. "I created Vaapad to answer my weakness: it channels my own darkness into a weapon of the light. Master Yoda's Ataro is also an answer to weakness: the limitations of reach and mobility imposed by his stature and his age. But for you? What weakness does Soresu answer?"
Blinking, Obi-Wan had been forced to admit he'd never actually thought of it that way.
"That is so like you, Master Kenobi," the Korun Master had said, shaking his head. "I am called a great swordsman because I invented a lethal style; but who is greater, the creator of a killing form-or the master of the classic form?"
"I'm very flattered that you would consider me a master, but really-"
"Not a master. The master," Mace had said. "Be who you are, and Grievous will never defeat you."
So now, facing the tornado of annihilating energy that is Grievous's attack, Obi-Wan simply is who he is.
The electrodrivers powering Grievous's mechanical arms let each of the four attack thrice in a single second; integrated by combat algorithms in the bio-droid's electronic network of peripheral processors, each of the twelve strikes per second came from a different angle with different speed and intensity, an unpredictably broken rhythm of slashes, chops, and stabs of which every single one could take Obi-Wan's life. Not one touched him.
After all, he had often walked unscathed through hornet-swarms of blasterfire, defended only by the Force's direction of his blade; countering twelve blows per second was only difficult, not impossible. His blade wove an intricate web of angles and curves, never truly fast but always just fast enough, each motion of his lightsaber subtly interfering with three or four or eight of the general's strikes, the rest sizzling past him, his precise, minimal shifts of weight and stance slipping them by centimeters.
Grievous, snarling fury, ramped up the intensity and velocity of his attacks-sixteen per second, eighteen-until finally, at twenty strikes per second, he overloaded Obi-Wan's defense. So Obi-Wan used his defense to attack. A subtle shift in the angle of a single parry brought Obi-Wan's blade in contact not with the blade of the oncoming lightsaber, but with the handgrip. -slice-
The blade winked out of existence a hairbreadth before it would have burned through Obi-Wan's forehead. Half the severed lightsaber skittered away, along with the duranium thumb and first finger of the hand that had held it.
From what I gather, Kenobi's form was perfectly suited to fighting Grievous because it had no weaknesses the General could exploit. Whereas Kenobi's sheer defensive capabilities was able to deflect Grievous' flurry of attacks as he would blaster bolts, while shifting the angle of his parries to cut off Grievous' limbs.
Anakin being a better duelist to Kenobi, not giving him access to any of the above techniques. In fact Windu basically states that Kenobi would have a better chance of beating him than Anakin.
Originally posted by Darth ThorNot really, Djem So's focus in on offense. 😬
Well Djem So's focus is also on deflecting attacks.
Plus Windu stated Kenobi had a better chance of defeating Grievous than him or Yoda, which is clearly false.In Canon perhaps, but the main point is that Soresu is a very effective counter against Grievous, especially for Windu to make such a claim.
Anakin would out duel Grievous and/or crush him with Tk.I don't necessarily disagree, only pointing out that Anakin > Kenobi > Grievous is faulty ABC logic, and that Anakin would likely have a harder time of it. For the record though this is sabers only.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well Djem So's focus is also on deflecting attacks. Plus Windu stated Kenobi had a better chance of defeating Grievous than him or Yoda, which is clearly false.Anakin would out duel Grievous and/or crush him with Tk.
I think he meant in terms of that Soresu would be better suited for someone with grevious' capabilities instead of a really aggressive style like Ataru or Vaapad. But I'm with you on that Djem So/Shien would have been the next best choice. Then Shi Cho IMO.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2I would think Makashi would be the next best choice, for its deflective capabilities, precision and as the chief dueling form.
I think he meant in terms of that Soresu would be better suited for someone with grevious' capabilities instead of a really aggressive style like Ataru or Vaapad. But I'm with you on that Djem So/Shien would have been the next best choice. Then Shi Cho IMO.
Or maybe it's the simple fact that you can't counter any of the points that have been made and you keep yourself from having to reply by acting disdainful.
That's at least how it appears to me. But hey according to you and the rest of the people refusing to directly respond to me I'm wrong quite a bit. Maybe it's the same here.