Mind probe

Kylo Ren has the ability to probe someone's mind with the Force. How does he know a power that Darth Vader didn't know? He needed a droid to probe Leia's mind.

Vader used the technique during his fight with Skywalker in ROTJ.

Simple. Kylo knows some abilities that Vader doesn't. Considering he isn't a Sith and is from some other dark side line it isn't surprising he could do things the Sith couldn't.

Or Leia is capable of blocking such things which was actually mentioned in one of the earlier scripts.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vader used the technique during his fight with Skywalker in ROTJ.

Kylo was able to dig around for info while Vader read his surface thoughts. "You're thoughts betray you."

Vader could be capable of it though. Hard to say.

Vader was able to figure out who Leia was, but couldn't read minds? I guess you could pretend he didn't and was just bullshitting, but I doubt it. Besides, Rey had zero training and was able to do it. It's more likely that Lucas didn't have the concept of the Force down at that point, and Disney doesn't care.

As I said, Vader read his surface thoughts. We haven't seen him actually probe minds for specific information even if it would prove useful.

Not saying he can't do it, but it's not confirmed either way.

Who said those we're only his surface thoughts? Besides you, I mean. Thoughts go beyond what's just on the surface, and Vader slowly questioning him would only western any defenses he put up allowing him to prove deeper. And again, Retired
Rey's done it with zero training from Snoke.

Vader says it. "You're thoughts betray you."

And Rey could do a lot of shit without training. Honestly though, just seems she reversed it on him via the connection he made.

Originally posted by ares834
Vader says it. "You're thoughts betray you."

And Rey could do a lot of shit without training. Honestly though, just seems she reversed it on him via the connection he made.

Sure it does. He is sensing his thoughts not digging into his mind.