Prove the external world exists...

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Stigma Herald of the Judgement

Prove the external world exists...

Without appealing to the senses.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Obvious attempt at inciting an argument is obvious.

Stigma Herald of the Judgement

I was rather thinking that it is impossible to prove.

BTW Solipsism sure is fun 🤘

Van Hohenheim Senior Member

Prove it doesn't.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.

I can't.

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
Prove it doesn't.

I can't.

Van Hohenheim Senior Member

Originally posted by Astner
I can't.

I can't.


Well looks like we have ourselves a stalemate. I'll rely on my senses when I exit a building through the front door and Stigma can exit through the highest window.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Prove the sensory world exists w/o appealing to the senses.

Nice.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
Well looks like we have ourselves a stalemate. I'll rely on my senses when I exit a building through the front door and Stigma can exit through the highest window.

Siding with an answer to a question you don't have the answer to does not make you any less ignorant.

Bentley Seitei

What would constitute a valid proof?

Van Hohenheim Senior Member

Originally posted by Astner
Siding with an answer to a question you don't have the answer to does not make you any less ignorant.

No it doesn't, but between being ignorant and alive vs ignorant and dead, I'll choose the former.

Originally posted by Bentley
What would constitute a valid proof?

If he knew that he wouldn't be asking us to prove the external universe exist. If you're asking what he's asking for, then he's asking us to prove the external universe exist by using rationalism not empiricism. But he also makes it clear that he's asking for the "external" world, rationalism requires you to think of something, so "external" might not apply.

He's basically asking us to prove unicorns or bigfoot exist without using physical proof.

Van Hohenheim Senior Member

Very relevant
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Emperordmb LSDMB

There has to be some external world, otherwise my mind wouldn't have something to bounce off of to develop over time.

shiv Spirit of Tengu

Re: Prove the external world exists...

Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.

Vibration

End Of Discussion.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Cogito ergo sum [a] is a Latin philosophical proposition by René Descartes usually translated into English as "I think, therefore I am". The phrase originally appeared in French as je pense, donc je suis in his Discourse on the Method, so as to reach a wider audience than Latin would have allowed.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by shiv
Vibration

End Of Discussion.


If you don't understand the question, don't answer.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Cogito ergo sum [a] is a Latin philosophical proposition by René Descartes usually translated into English as "I think, therefore I am". The phrase originally appeared in French as je pense, donc je suis in his Discourse on the Method, so as to reach a wider audience than Latin would have allowed.

It's a postulate, not a proof.

TethAdamTheRock God of War

Originally posted by Mindship
Prove the sensory world exists w/o appealing to the senses.

Nice.

Prove the Anti-Matter Universe exist without being there.

👆 Nice

TethAdamTheRock God of War

Re: Re: Prove the external world exists...

Originally posted by shiv
Vibration

End Of Discussion.

Touch/Hearing

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance
Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.

What do you mean by external world?

Ursumeles Traitor

Bump
Stigma, what is the answer to Josh's question? Is the external world everything except for our body? Or everything except for our awareness? Or something else?

Stigma Herald of the Judgement

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Bump
Stigma, what is the answer to Josh's question? Is the external world everything except for our body? Or everything except for our awareness? Or something else?

Let's make it interesting. External world as in everything except our body.