World War Hulk vs DOS Doomsday

At that SINGLE blinding instant the monster LOST the power ring.

Whan is that single blinding instant, you may ask?

That single blinding instant was when the guardian released thw totality of his energies.

Is pretty clear he lost the ring at that very single moment, since he lost the ring at that very single moment, there was NO ring protecting him, it was all Doomsday. IMO

Lets put it this way, you are in a nuke shelter at ground zero protected. at the single moment of the explosion of a nuke the nuke shelter disappears, do you think you will survive? Or will you be atomized?

baka

The Guardian flat out says that Doomsday is adapting to his power. Not that it is surviving die to the ring.

When he blasts Doomsday, he destroyed the GL ring. Doomsday alone was able to survive the attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...a weakened Hulk tanked a blast that split a planet in half.

That's cute, but knowing you Carver, there have to be some context.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
@Darksaint

After killing a lantern and taking his ring, DD was actually able to make it respond to his will. It's a bit silly but he started using its power from the moment he took it.

"It has UNTUITIVELY TAPPED into the power of the ring".

Starts duking it out with a Guardian.

"So terrible was the force of the MONSTER'S WILL, that the guardian actually began to falter!" The Guardian then unfurled his last bit of energies...

...resulting in the loss of DD's stolen ring along with a massive explosion.

Pretty clear to me that DD was the beneficiary of a gl ring in his fight with a Guardian all the way to the very end. Really hard to claim that a straight up tanking feat.

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Originally posted by SquallX
That's cute, but knowing you Carver, there have to be some context.

No context at all bro. He didn't even feel it.

Originally posted by SquallX
That's cute, but knowing you Carver, there have to be some context.

It wasn't a planet splitting blast.

@celey:

Yeah, the others have said it already, lol. Another analogy:

We're boxing, and you're wearing a headguard. It disappears (I've been watching Rocky 2, btw) and the exact same moment I punch you.

Moreover, whilst Doomsday was adapting to the power, guess what else was on the battlefield that (presumably) has already adapted to massive amounts of Oan energy?

That's right, the ring.

The Guardian's power was so great, items specifically designed to harness this same power, were overloaded and destroyed.

And Doomy survived that.

Moot point, as this entire convo was around the WWH/Sentry fight, where golem asserts there was more destructive power being thrown around there. I mean, it wasn't as if Hulk had adapted to Sentry's energy (as carver likes to show him grabbing Sentry's energy) or that Sentry specifically emits energy that doesn't hurt Hulk....

Edit: as for the planet splitting feat, the bomb that the Red King let off had 'only' split the crust. I.e the outer skin:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/SavageHulkLifting20v2102.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@celey:

Yeah, the others have said it already, lol. Another analogy:

We're boxing, and you're wearing a headguard. It disappears (I've been watching Rocky 2, btw) and the exact same moment I punch you.

Your boxing analogy is pretty much a reach. I think you are missing the point. There's a reason the sequence of events show the guardian blasting first then the ring getting destroyed/overloaded along with the mountain blowing up. I mean technically speaking, the mountain "ceased to exist" in the same instant right? Going by your argument, the Guardian for some reason made the ring disappear and blew up the mountain for kicks.

What you are doing is taking the writers words and making it suit your argument even though it does not follow logical sense. What do you think destroyed the ring and the mountain? Seeing as the frikkin Guardian expelled the totality of its energies to kill DD should have set off alarms.

In an instant, a lot of things can happen especially in a medium where speed allows you to do a myriad things. In this case, the blast was so powerful(trans level) that it can destroy things even large objects like a mountain in an instant.

With your argument, you are setting a very illogical precedent anytime someone attacks somebody. Especially against characters who use shielding. Anytime shielded characters get attacked, if they are hurt that means their attacker made their shields disappear at the same time they fired. Heck lets not stop there. Anytime someone gets attacked and then hurt, it means their defenses disappeared in the same instance.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Moreover, whilst Doomsday was adapting to the power, guess what else was on the battlefield that (presumably) has already adapted to massive amounts of Oan energy?

That's right, the ring.

The Guardian's power was so great, items specifically designed to harness this same power, were overloaded and destroyed.

And Doomy survived that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Moot point, as this entire convo was around the WWH/Sentry fight, where golem asserts there was more destructive power being thrown around there. I mean, it wasn't as if Hulk had adapted to Sentry's energy (as carver likes to show him grabbing Sentry's energy) or that Sentry specifically emits energy that doesn't hurt Hulk....

Edit: as for the planet splitting feat, the bomb that the Red King let off had 'only' split the crust. I.e the outer skin:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/SavageHulkLifting20v2102.jpg

P.S. Oh and myth busted.
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Lol @ myth busting. Odg's ridiculousness lives on.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Just because others have their own version(albeit very similar) of your original claim does not make it right.

Never said it did, merely that I would only be repeating what others have said.

Not really since this showing is being touted as a straight up tanking feat for DD without mentioning that he may have been amped and was the beneficiary of a GL ring's defenses.
P.S. Oh and myth busted.
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This is the only real point worth responding to, as we both agree that it's not a straight up tanking feat (hence my point about the adaptation to energy).

In Golem's original point, Hulk had adapted to Sentry's energy (to the point he could grab it like a physical object). Energy that previously, does not harm him (and in fact, calms him). So this feat (the guardian feat) is as much a tanking feat as Sentry/WWH's fight.

Re-reading those scans, I agree with Celey.

Doomsday was amped with the GL ring backed by his "monstrous willpower." The Guardian's explosion at the end is obviously what destroyed the GL ring (and mountain). It wasn't a straight forward tanking feat. I'm more shocked at how well Doomsday was able to use the GL ring.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Never said it did, merely that I would only be repeating what others have said.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

This is the only real point worth responding to, as we both agree that it's not a straight up tanking feat (hence my point about the adaptation to energy).

In Golem's original point, Hulk had adapted to Sentry's energy (to the point he could grab it like a physical object). Energy that previously, does not harm him (and in fact, calms him). So this feat (the guardian feat) is as much a tanking feat as Sentry/WWH's fight.

So I know that we're on the same page, you agree that yourself, Abhi, Rao, and who ever else has perpetuated this feat w/o even a hint of DD absorbing power and using a GL ring are wrong?

Golem said this? When?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Lol @ myth busting. Odg's ridiculousness lives on.

Lol at the nonsense.

Anyway, no matter the downplay. Doomsday wins

It's not downplaying to point out Doomsday had a GL ring in that instance.

Originally posted by One-Punch
It's not downplaying to point out Doomsday had a GL ring in that instance.

He tanked something which destroyed a GL ring and vaporized SBP. Just think about it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not at the moment of Guardian's suicide. The ring was destroyed and Doomsday tanked it.

He tanked something which destroyed a GL ring and vaporized SBP. Just think about it.

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Originally posted by One-Punch
Re-reading those scans, I agree with Celey.

Doomsday was amped with the GL ring backed by his "monstrous willpower." The Guardian's explosion at the end is obviously what destroyed the GL ring (and mountain). It wasn't a straight forward tanking feat. I'm more shocked at how well Doomsday was able to use the GL ring.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lol at the nonsense.

Anyway, no matter the downplay. Doomsday wins

Think about what you're saying here.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So the ring was overloaded/destroyed and the mountain was blown up before the blast from the Guardian reached them?

Think about what you're saying here.

Then we clearly see the aura leaving him and the ring clearly melting before the actual explosion takes place:

The aura disspearing should the the most obvious sign that the protection was off.
It's clear as day.
How in the hell is this even debatable? Doomsday tanked it under his own durability.

It is pretty clear

"At that SINGLE blinding instant the monster lost the ring and the mountain ceased to exist"

It does not says AFTER that blinding instant the monster lost the ring.

It says "AT THAT SINGLE BLINDING INSTANT"

single
[sing-guh l]
adjective
1.
only one in number; one only; unique; sole

instant
[in-stuh nt]
noun
1.
an infinitesimal or very short space of time; a moment:

The narration is pretty clear.

Again use the analogy of the nuke and explain to me how are you surviving?

Originally posted by Philosophía
It is you who should take a closer look and think about what he's saying here. We clearly see how Doomsday looks with the aura around him when the ring is fully functional:

Then we clearly see the aura leaving him and the ring clearly melting before the actual explosion takes place:

The aura disspearing should the the most obvious sign that the protection was off.
It's clear as day.
How in the hell is this even debatable? Doomsday tanked it under his own durability.

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