Count Dooku and Darth Vader vs Revan and Vaylin

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Count Dooku and Darth Vader vs Revan and Vaylin

All charaters in an prime who wins fight takes place in an eternal throne room

dooku and vader have hearts

revan is heart of the force

revan solos

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Anyway, probably Team 1. Vaylin's pretty trashy.

dooku dies tho

Vader vs. Revan is honestly a battle dependent on the views; both characters have immense exposure, immense load of feats and it's really difficult stuff to rate in short. Seen arguments for either side with convincing points.

Dooku vs. Vailyn is what would tip the scales for me - basically because Vailyn's inferiority as a combatant is completely clear and indisputable. While Vailyn's power is also obviously superior, problem is, Vailyn didn't show the actual mastery and skill over her raw power to use it directly within heated battle against a considerably powerful combatant. I just can't see Vailyn harnessing direct assaults of enough magnitude to put Dooku out of commission with Force alone. To take out someone with Force alone requires a miraculous opportunity, or superiority of inhuman level, and still the second one requires at least some space for it. Dooku would prevail more often than not.

The other way around, Vader definitely knocks out Vailyn, who isn't that much more powerful and doesn't hold enough superiority for her Force power to be really meaningful, while Vader totally shits on her as a combatant. Then you have either Dooku + Vader vs. Revan, or Vader vs. Revan again.

So yeah, Dooku and Vader take a slim majority.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
dooku and vader have hearts

revan is heart of the force

revan solos

no no no vader more machine than man. twisted and evil. no heart, no heart.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
no no no vader more machine than man. twisted and evil. no heart, no heart.
Dude, the pansy turned on the emperor for his son. He had a heart. He lost his dark way at the end like a true weakling IMO.

Originally posted by JKBart
Vader vs. Revan is honestly a battle dependent on the views; both characters have immense exposure, immense load of feats and it's really difficult stuff to rate in short. Seen arguments for either side with convincing points.

Dooku vs. Vailyn is what would tip the scales for me - basically because Vailyn's inferiority as a combatant is completely clear and indisputable. While Vailyn's power is also obviously superior, problem is, Vailyn didn't show the actual mastery and skill over her raw power to use it directly within heated battle against a considerably powerful combatant. I just can't see Vailyn harnessing direct assaults of enough magnitude to put Dooku out of commission with Force alone. To take out someone with Force alone requires a miraculous opportunity, or superiority of inhuman level, and still the second one requires at least some space for it. Dooku would prevail more often than not.

The other way around, Vader definitely knocks out Vailyn, who isn't that much more powerful and doesn't hold enough superiority for her Force power to be really meaningful, while Vader totally shits on her as a combatant. Then you have either Dooku + Vader vs. Revan, or Vader vs. Revan again.

So yeah, Dooku and Vader take a slim majority.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
dooku and vader have hearts

revan is heart of the force

revan solos

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Anyway, probably Team 1. Vaylin's pretty trashy.

dooku dies tho


That fight would be as GOAT as Vader and Sidious vs Revan and Valkorion though.

Originally posted by JKBart
Vader vs. Revan is honestly a battle dependent on the views; both characters have immense exposure, immense load of feats and it's really difficult stuff to rate in short. Seen arguments for either side with convincing points.

Dooku vs. Vailyn is what would tip the scales for me - basically because Vailyn's inferiority as a combatant is completely clear and indisputable. While Vailyn's power is also obviously superior, problem is, Vailyn didn't show the actual mastery and skill over her raw power to use it directly within heated battle against a considerably powerful combatant. I just can't see Vailyn harnessing direct assaults of enough magnitude to put Dooku out of commission with Force alone. To take out someone with Force alone requires a miraculous opportunity, or superiority of inhuman level, and still the second one requires at least some space for it. Dooku would prevail more often than not.

The other way around, Vader definitely knocks out Vailyn, who isn't that much more powerful and doesn't hold enough superiority for her Force power to be really meaningful, while Vader totally shits on her as a combatant. Then you have either Dooku + Vader vs. Revan, or Vader vs. Revan again.

So yeah, Dooku and Vader take a slim majority.

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The notion that Vaylin is more powerful than Vader when she barely matches in TK is stupid.

I'd say team 2 tbh.

Revan gets raped, Vaylin follows.

Whoever wins between Vader and Revan wins it all for their team, and I'd lean towards a non-jobbing Vader for a very slight, but hard fought, majority.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Whoever wins between Vader and Revan wins it all for their team, and I'd lean towards a non-jobbing Vader for a very slight, but hard fought, majority.
I don't think so. With SoR, Revan truly surpassed Vader. It's undoubtedly a good fight, but Revan inevitably wins.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
a non-jobbing Vade.

So, fanfiction Vader?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So, fanfiction Vader?

He doesn't job all the time ---for instance, in sources such as The Force Unleashed and Coruscant Night trilogy and subsequent books, he was written an absolute Force monster. In others he still is, but he doesn't exercise that advantage nearly as much as he should, otherwise he wouldn't be troubled by the likes of Dark Womam.

Originally posted by Sinious
I don't think so. With SoR, Revan truly surpassed Vader. It's undoubtedly a good fight, but Revan inevitably wins.

That's nice - what's your reasoning for such, though?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
That's nice - what's your reasoning for such, though?
The fact that he was DEFEATING an extremely powerful team on his own. A team so powerful that I can easily wank by linking them to Arcann and of course eventually Valkorion.

Well aware I've read Ant's respect thread----why does that rank him above Vader, though? What would be his win condition against him?

Originally posted by Sinious
The fact that he was DEFEATING an extremely powerful team on his own.

He was defeated, and not a single one of the fighters was killed or incapacitated, including the non-force sensitives. That doesn't give me the impression that they were getting it up their asses.