intelligence: Tony vs. T'challa

Started by riv66723 pages

If it were that simple Thanos'd still be an Iron Man villain. 😉

No.

You're comparing one guy to an entire advanced civilisation, NOT TChalla.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No.

You're comparing one guy to an entire advanced civilisation, NOT TChalla.

would it be fair to say that Tony outclasses T'challa and every Wakanda scientist/engineer on an individual base

but is roughly even to them when all of wakanda's intellect works together?

If you judging intelligence judge them by what they are not masters of.

Interested to see where this might go now that the OP has been answered.

Pym would smack either down with ease in a prep war.

3rd smartest... Hell Banner has a better chance or even McCoy

Way to say absolutely nothing relevant to the topic at hand.
Surprised it took this long.

Tony is smarter than BP...reed admitted that the difference in intelligence between him and tony was fractional,but that tony could multitask a lot better than he could,

isn't there a scan were Reed admits that Tony can do things the other's cant while talking to the illuminati

and i also believe there is a scan were T'challa said himself and the collective genius of Wakanda can't match Tony

Originally posted by Genii96
Tony is smarter than BP...reed admitted that the difference in intelligence between him and tony was fractional,but that tony could multitask a lot better than he could,
almost everyone can multitasking better than him though.

Originally posted by deathslash
almost everyone can multitasking better than him though.
but tony is the "world's greatest multitasker"

Originally posted by SWblayde938
but tony is the "world's greatest multitasker"
your point is? The guy's been outsmarted by t'challa (it's happened multiple times), banner, pym, etc. By the way, pym is the third smartest and then there shouldn't be any particular order to who's the smartest after that.

Originally posted by deathslash
your point is? The guy's been outsmarted by t'challa (it's happened multiple times), banner, pym, etc. By the way, pym is the third smartest and then there shouldn't be any particular order to who's the smartest after that.
what are pym's best feats?

Judging from reed's assessment on stark,I'd place him at 2nd....

Originally posted by deathslash
your point is? The guy's been outsmarted by t'challa (it's happened multiple times),

Always with huge asterisks, like Panther having help from a future version of himself who had both future knowledge and telepathy. It should be noted that when Panther needed something scientific done in the Phoenix story, he snaped Stark out of his funk and got him on the case, rather than doing the scientific work himself.

Originally posted by SWblayde938
what are pym's best feats?
creating ultron (who is pretty much a robotic version of pym without the morals), creating (or was it discovering? ) pym particles, discovering microverses, creating a time activated message to himself in the future that would return the memories that he had wiped from his brain so that he could beat ultron on a specific day, creating on the fly weapons, etc. You should really ask pymftw about this as he knows way more about pym than I do.
Originally posted by VanMae
Always with huge asterisks, like Panther having help from a future version of himself who had both future knowledge and telepathy. It should be noted that when Panther needed something scientific done in the Phoenix story, he snaped Stark out of his funk and got him on the case, rather than doing the scientific work himself.
what should really be noted is that stark only really specializes in the field of science. Meanwhile, BP also expands into the field of magic.

Originally posted by deathslash
creating ultron (who is pretty much a robotic version of pym without the morals), creating (or was it discovering? ) pym particles,

He didn't so much create Ultron as he did a really bad job of reverse-engineering Dragon-Man. He had a robot that could be mistaken for a living being, and reverse engineered a clunky garbage-can looking thing.

And yes Pym Particles are a discovery rather than an invention. What he did was more on the level of discovering radiation than inventing something.

OP said confused who the 3rd smartest Marvel character is.

going for pym xD

Originally posted by VanMae
He didn't so much create Ultron as he did a really bad job of reverse-engineering Dragon-Man. He had a robot that could be mistaken for a living being, and reverse engineered a clunky garbage-can looking thing.

And yes Pym Particles are a discovery rather than an invention. What he did was more on the level of discovering radiation than inventing something.

his Ai design is based off of dragon man, but his intelligence and brainwaves were a direct result of pym. What he did with pym particles goes far beyond just discovering them though. He figured out how to utilize them as a tool for both exploration and a weapon. He also crated a helmet that allows him to control insects, created wasp's wings, the quin jet iirc, ragnarok, and various other devices.

T'challa is smarter than Tony. Heck, he's much smarter than Galactus, even.

I mean, Galactus has angsted for eons about being forced to consume billions of living souls, yet he couldn't find a solution to it. BP on the other hand, casually removed Galactus' hunger while only having a few scattered pieces of information available, supplemented by some hunches. Whereas Galactus himself of course has full information about his own physiology and history.

T'challa >> Galactus > Reed (by his own admission) >> Tony