so what is Rey's midichlorian count ?

Started by Darth Thor3 pages
Originally posted by redpill
i still am not convinced. i think its enough for yoda to say he is strong in the force.

Enough? Sure. But I think it was good to quantify what's so special about this boy's potential. And at the same time justify why Vader's not overthrown Palpatine by the time of the OT.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Enough? Sure. But I think it was good to quantify what's so special about this boy's potential. And at the same time justify why Vader's not overthrown Palpatine by the time of the OT.

just simply say, he feels stronger in the force than yoda. no need to throw out a number. then show, not tell, anakin doing amazing force feats.

is rey special?

Stop obsessing with tropes like 'show don't tell'- it just becomes mindless to be enslaved to them. There was nothing to show about Anakin; Qui-Gon ws working on INSTINCT. The MC test was the way to show the audience that his instinct was correct. It;s not compatible at all with the Rey situation.

If you don't like MCs, then fine- but it's bad faith to open a thread like this without actually being interested in discussion. You clearly had an agenda here.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Stop obsessing with tropes like 'show don't tell'- it just becomes mindless to be enslaved to them. There was nothing to show about Anakin; Qui-Gon ws working on INSTINCT. The MC test was the way to show the audience that his instinct was correct. It;s not compatible at all with the Rey situation.

If you don't like MCs, then fine- but it's bad faith to open a thread like this without actually being interested in discussion. You clearly had an agenda here.

show versus tell is important.

lucas simply told us a number, over 20, 000.
a number which doesn't tell us anything.

it would be better for lucas to show us anakin is powerful in the force with feats and actions.

tfa got that detail correct.

Show versus tell is SOMETIMES important. Your version where no-one EVER verbally explains anything is moronic, He did tell us what it means- better than Yoda.

Anakin was too yoiung for feats and actions. This was a five second part of a conversation to make the point QGK was right.

You just yelling out 'show don't tell' without context is poor quality analysis.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Show versus tell is SOMETIMES important. Your version where no-one EVER verbally explains anything is moronic, He did tell us what it means- better than Yoda.

Anakin was too yoiung for feats and actions. This was a five second part of a conversation to make the point QGK was right.

You just yelling out 'show don't tell' without context is poor quality analysis.

the context is obi wan throwing out a number 20, 000 and only saying thats higher than yoda, which still doesnt tell us anything.

since 20, 000 is higher than yoda, is anakin more powerful than yoda right now? and why was dooku able to so easily defeat mr 20, 000?

and if you watch rebels, s2 you see infants, younger than anakin, doing force push, as did asajj when she was a youngling.

if this is so important, why didn't snoke ask kylo to measure rey's midichlorian count?

Originally posted by redpill
the context is obi wan throwing out a number 20, 000 and only saying thats higher than yoda, which still doesnt tell us anything.

since 20, 000 is higher than yoda, is anakin more powerful than yoda right now? and why was dooku able to so easily defeat mr 20, 000?

and if you watch rebels, s2 you see infants, younger than anakin, doing force push, as did asajj when she was a youngling.

It LITERALLY tells us something. You should think more carefully before throwing out statements- you are speaking like you read off the lines from another critic without putting any thought into it yourself.

Talking of show don't tell, we can SEE that Anakin clearly doesn't have devleoped powers, so working out that what is being talked of here is potential is only the slightest common sense.

What does Rebels showing trained apprentices have to do with anything?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It LITERALLY tells us something. You should think more carefully before throwing out statements- you are speaking like you read off the lines from another critic without putting any thought into it yourself.

Talking of show don't tell, we can SEE that Anakin clearly doesn't have devleoped powers, so working out that what is being talked of here is potential is only the slightest common sense.

What does Rebels showing trained apprentices have to do with anything?

hahaha. thats funny you say that. lol. 😆 😂 😂 😆

in the rebels episode where the inquitors are looking for the force trained babies, where ahsoka intervenes to save kanaan and ezra, you see the babies have powers.

no mentions on the part of inquitors of thier midichlorian count

^ What does that have to do with Anakin's unmatched potential and immaculate conception? Nothing. Seems like You're just complaining for the sake of it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Because that makes it seem routine- it was just establishing that Anakin was very unusual,

Personally, I wou,d have liked to have SEEN Anakin's exceptionality instead of being TOLD all the time how special he is. And basically, in the PT he isn't very special.

Originally posted by queeq
Personally, I wou,d have liked to have SEEN Anakin's exceptionality instead of being TOLD all the time how special he is. And basically, in the PT he isn't very special.

Well that was meant to happen later. Whole different issue, that. He wasn't meant to be moving mountains as a kid.

I never saw it later either.

Like I said- that's a whole different issue.

Midichlorians served their purpose in the context: don't make Anakin some kind of miraclekid but justify Qui-Gon's actions. At that point in the movie trying a longer set up would've been awful for the pacing -which isn't all that good as it is-.

Recall in episode 1, Anakin has Jedi traits (see things before they happen) making him good at pod racing.

Rey, didn't need Jedi instruction to be force sensitive either

20000 midiclorian count sounds like a good number

You don't need training to be "force sensitive".

As for the miracles Rey performed, she's clearly exceptionally strong in the Force, but it might also be the case that she had training as a child (I hope so anyway).

I dunno.

Even Luke was a great pilot without training - Jedi reflexes?

so based on what u seen what is reys midichlorian count

I don't care about I&(&*^&^&^& midi*^*^&^&^chlorians!! They're STUPID!

Originally posted by queeq
I dunno.

Even Luke was a great pilot without training - Jedi reflexes?

Yeah, so could little Anakin. But that's a bit different to doing advanced Jedi mind tricks and TK. I'm sure she's had training as a child.