Thor vs Link

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Oh, yes, because "strength" is also the name of "strength". I forgot. How wrong of me to confuse a strength enhancing item with an item which enhances strength.

You're using the word strength in two different ways. Let me clarify with a general example and hopefully this time it will stick.

"Julia is stronger than Josh because she handled their breakup better."

"Josh can bench 200 pounds."

"Therefore Julia can bench more than 200 pounds."

This is a case of equivocation because the word strength is used with different meanings.

Likewise you're trying to erase the line between lifting-capacity and the ability to deliver a high-impact blow.

And this is your only argument. As I said, there is nothing in-game that even implies that Link could hit harder.

Originally posted by Astner
It's amazing how you can fail to grasp something so simple, even when explained to you.

You're using the word strength in two different ways. Let me clarify with a general example and hopefully this time it will stick.

"Julia is stronger than Josh because she handled their breakup better."

"Josh can bench 200 pounds."

"Therefore Julia can bench more than 200 pounds."

This is a case of equivocation because the word strength is used with different meanings.

Likewise you're trying to erase the line between lifting-capacity and the ability to deliver a high-impact blow.

And this is your only argument. As I said, there is nothing in-game that even implies that Link could hit harder.

Oh, I see, so the Golden Gauntlets give Link the emotional strength to move mountains. It sure was ambiguous, thank you for clearing that up.

I'm gonna go feel at some mountains until they get the **** out of my way. Lol.

You done?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Oh, I see, so the Golden Gauntlets give Link the emotional strength to move mountains.

Originally posted by Astner
Likewise you're trying to erase the line between lifting-capacity and the ability to deliver a high-impact blow.

Originally posted by Astner

Are you done trying to draw imaginary limitations on physical strength, or should I settle in with some snacks?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Are you done trying to draw imaginary limitations on physical strength,

Originally posted by Astner
Force and momentum are not commutative properties.

You're right, a sword swing from a guy who can move mountains is no more dangerous than one from a regular man.

Especially in fiction: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyGlacier

This is why Quicksilver's punches hurt more than The Hulk's.

Right? Right?

Originally posted by Astner
Force and momentum are not commutative properties.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're right, a sword swing from a guy who can move mountains is no more dangerous than one from a regular man.

Especially in fiction: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyGlacier

This is why Quicksilver's punches hurt more than The Hulk's.

Right? Right?

I'm sorry, but "characters that can lift heavy things in fiction usually hit harder," is poor substitute for evidence—be it evidence by reason (physics) or direct evidence (in-game).

Originally posted by Jmanghan
So you're saying, the Golden Gauntlets have no combative use whatsoever?

I don't have to prove that stronger characters hit harder. 👆

Not that it matters, Link can swing his sword fast enough to deflect lightning, so even if someone did latch on to your attempt to separate strength from strength, it wouldn't matter.

Originally posted by Astner
Force and momentum are not commutative units.

It's pretty clear Link would cut Mjolnir in half if they locked up. It doesn't do well against uber swords.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Thor/Thor_vol2-512-010-18.jpg.html

Movie Thor was great at one thing; being on his back

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Oh, I see, so the Golden Gauntlets give Link the emotional strength to move mountains. It sure was ambiguous, thank you for clearing that up.

I'm gonna go feel at some mountains until they get the **** out of my way. Lol.

You done?

crylaugh

Originally posted by Sacred Fire
crylaugh

Astner is 100% right that the Golden Gauntlets granting Link the ability to hit harder is 100% an assumption with no backing for it in OoT.

However, we can look at other Links, most notably TP Link, and how neither shows any difference in their ability to harm Ganon. TP Link demonstrates physical strength more or less on par with OoT Link without the Golden Gauntlets, and both are able to wound Ganondorf. Also notably, the Hero's Shade in TP is explicitly OoT Link, who is perfectly capable of matching TP Link blow for blow.

TP Link with the Golden Gauntlets cuts Thor and his whacker in half with one slash

You guys know Thor recenctly forced a destroyed planet back together, after cracking said planet with his indirect blows?

He would kill Link without noticing him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Astner is 100% right that the Golden Gauntlets granting Link the ability to hit harder is 100% an assumption with no backing for it in OoT.

However, we can look at other Links, most notably TP Link, and how neither shows any difference in their ability to harm Ganon. TP Link demonstrates physical strength more or less on par with OoT Link without the Golden Gauntlets, and both are able to wound Ganondorf. Also notably, the Hero's Shade in TP is explicitly OoT Link, who is perfectly capable of matching TP Link blow for blow.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
TP Link with the Golden Gauntlets cuts Thor and his whacker in half with one slash

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
You guys know Thor recenctly forced a destroyed planet back together, after cracking said planet with his indirect blows?

He would kill Link without noticing him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If you're going to play Devil's Advocate, do it for a series you pay attention to.

So we're all under the opinion that TP Link with the Golden Gauntlets would decapitate Mjolnir then?

The question then turns into wondering if Mjolnir could handle Master Sword blasts before Link got close enough to gut Thor