Originally posted by quanchi112
I have posted scans with the words weakness to magic used exactly in the same vein I use the words. The reason Atlas was whooping on Superman was due to his magical powers. Do you agree ?
"Weakness" isn't consistent with his powerset. Kryptonite makes him weaker. Red Sun makes him weaker. Magic doesn't. If you stab him with a magic sword, it doesn't make him less strong, durable, or even dampen his healing factor unless that's the literal spell.
Atlas had outside help, so even if he had magic himself, we have no way of knowing whether it would have gotten the job done alone.
Originally posted by -Pr-Knite drains him magic is a weakness just in a different vein. If it was a regular sword it'd break up against his skin but a magical weapon cuts into him.
"Weakness" isn't consistent with his powerset. Kryptonite makes him weaker. Red Sun makes him weaker. Magic doesn't. If you stab him with a magic sword, it doesn't make him less strong, durable, or even dampen his healing factor unless that's the literal spell.Atlas had outside help, so even if he had magic himself, we have no way of knowing whether it would have gotten the job done alone.
Superman had outside help to defeat him. What outside help did atlas have ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Knite drains him magic is a weakness just in a different vein. If it was a regular sword it'd break up against his skin but a magical weapon cuts into him.Superman had outside help to defeat him. What outside help did atlas have ?
Even when it's said to be a weakness, it's not written like one. There's a difference between a weakness and a vulnerability.
Atlas had a government agency on his side, which used a form of magic to mess with Superman's powers.
Originally posted by -Pr-The words magical weakness have been used in the comics. The way you define it doesn't apply to everyone.
Even when it's said to be a weakness, it's not written like one. There's a difference between a weakness and a vulnerability.Atlas had a government agency on his side, which used a form of magic to mess with Superman's powers.
Atlas still had the same powers he always used and Superman needed an amp to take him out. Magic matters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The words magical weakness have been used in the comics. The way you define it doesn't apply to everyone.Atlas still had the same powers he always used and Superman needed an amp to take him out. Magic matters.
I literally addressed that in a previous post last night.
Atlas had help. Superman had Krypto. It doesn't negate the times when Superman has been knocked down by magic, or the times he's done well against it. It's a horrible example to use, especially considering it was a sneak attack.
Originally posted by -Pr-It is still listed in the comics as a magical weakness.
I literally addressed that in a previous post last night.Atlas had help. Superman had Krypto. It doesn't negate the times when Superman has been knocked down by magic, or the times he's done well against it. It's a horrible example to use, especially considering it was a sneak attack.
Atlas didn't have anyone aiding him in the fight. I didn't say magic is an auto win I said he's weaker to magic. It puts him at a disadvantage.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It is still listed in the comics as a magical weakness.Atlas didn't have anyone aiding him in the fight. I didn't say magic is an auto win I said he's weaker to magic. It puts him at a disadvantage.
Which I never denied. It's semantics at this point.
Atlas had an entire government project helping him. Read the Atlas entry:
The comic where Atlas fought Superman directly states that something else is going on while they're fighting too. So you're either misinformed because you didn't read the comic, or deliberately trying to mislead people.
Originally posted by -Pr-They referred to him as their Arsenal of magic. It's plain as day. They pulled him out. In his powers we see they are his powers. You not comprehending what actually occurred and trying to twist the words. Atlas took him on himself. Superman needed an amp and Krypto to defeat him.
Which I never denied. It's semantics at this point.Atlas had an entire government project helping him. Read the Atlas entry:
The comic where Atlas fought Superman directly states that something else is going on while they're fighting too. So you're either misinformed because you didn't read the comic, or deliberately trying to mislead people.
Magic is a weakness and you ignore the words used over numerous times in a comic. Irony.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They referred to him as their Arsenal of magic. It's plain as day. They pulled him out. In his powers we see they are his powers. You not comprehending what actually occurred and trying to twist the words. Atlas took him on himself. Superman needed an amp and Krypto to defeat him.Magic is a weakness and you ignore the words used over numerous times in a comic. Irony.
It's like you're not even reading my posts. It's okay though, we both know you're just trying to start a fight.
Originally posted by -Pr-Atlas is who they are testing as their Arsenal of magic against superman. I read the entry and correctly assessed it. When does it say the government is actively amping him during their confrontation ?
It's like you're not even reading my posts. It's okay though, we both know you're just trying to start a fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Atlas is who they are testing as their Arsenal of magic against superman. I read the entry and correctly assessed it. When does it say the government is actively amping him during their confrontation ?
It didn't say they were amping him. It said he had outside help, which he did.
Superman even says during the fight that something else is going on.
Originally posted by -Pr-They pulled him out of time and he went against Superman but had his own secret agenda. It's like the Jla supports Superman but if he fights someone in a brawl alone we don't see look at the Jla they clearly support him. Same concept.
It didn't say they were amping him. It said he had outside help, which he did.Superman even says during the fight that something else is going on.
Something else going on is a vague statement. Atlas fought him with his own super powers and Superman needed aid to win. The only reason was due to the magical powers atlas wielded. Superman needed aid to beat him because of that.
I think I recall what something else going on referred to.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They pulled him out of time and he went against Superman but had his own secret agenda. It's like the Jla supports Superman but if he fights someone in a brawl alone we don't see look at the Jla they clearly support him. Same concept.Something else going on is a vague statement. Atlas fought him with his own super powers and Superman needed aid to win. The only reason was due to the magical powers atlas wielded. Superman needed aid to beat him because of that.
I think I recall what something else going on referred to.
What does that have to do with anything?
It was stated that he had help. I don't see what the issue is.
Even with all of that taken in to account, can you prove Atlas used magic of his own against Superman?
