Caedus vs Arcann

Started by carthage3 pages
carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES
Originally posted by Syndicate
Caedus.
*Shrug* Arcann ragdolled HoT and Caedus has ragdolled Y-Wings. Don't know which is better.
Caedus probably.

He also collapsed a building before his prime in Traitor

Syndicate Senior Member
Originally posted by carthage
He also collapsed a building before his prime in Traitor

How big was it?

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

A random TOR Jedi collapsed two buildings in The Third Lesson. Right before Malgus owned him miles from his prime.

Building feats are a little below Arcann's level.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by Syndicate
Caedus has ragdolled Y-Wings.

No... he hasn't.

ChaosTheory123 Bored with sanity

He HAS stopped the forward momentum of a B Wing *shrugs*

Which itself is a pretty solid feat and arguably better than ragdolling given the kinds of speeds dog fights can happen at

carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No... he hasn't.

Jacen reached out and pulled a handful of air toward him. Simultaneously the Y-wing’s ion jet pods skidded backward across the duracrete, sending up showers of sparks, just until the starfighter’s nose slid off the barrier and crashed to the ground, facing directly into the duracrete.

Then he added a twisting motion, and the Y-wing rotated along its long axis, crashing onto the taxiing strip upside down.

-LOTF Betrayal

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

That's considered ragdolling?

Trocity Undefeated and Undisputed

Caedus is weak af, that's Kenobi level garbage. Arcann stomps.

hutchy1345 Senior Member

Originally posted by Trocity
Caedus is weak af, that's Kenobi level garbage. Arcann stomps.

He's definitely not weak

The Ellimist The Shadow

Lol Caedus destroys

NewGuy01 perpetual

Yeah, Caedus. He's demonstrated himself to be physically superior, he's a more skilled duelist, he's more powerful in general as a Skywalker, his defensive applications of the force hold up with Arcann's, and he's vastly more proficient with offensive and various esoteric applications. He's just better all around, really.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He's demonstrated himself to be physically superior,

Physically superior?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
he's a more skilled duelist,

Perhaps

But I wouldn't underestimate Arcann's dueling skills.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
he's more powerful in general as a Skywalker,

So every Skywalker is stronger then Arcann by virtue of being a Skywalker?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
his defensive applications of the force hold up with Arcann's,

Such as?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
and he's vastly more proficient with offensive and various esoteric applications. He's just better all around, really.

This is based on?

Assuming that the Outlander is Hero of Tython, Arcann utterly dominated him with his powers.

It takes Revan-level strength to dominate Hero of Tython like that. And it takes Valkorion-level strength to dominate Arcann in turn.

NewGuy01 perpetual

I'd say a little less than Revan level strength, lol. He's good, though, to be sure.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

It takes Revan-level strength to dominate Hero of Tython like that. And it takes Valkorion-level strength to dominate Arcann in turn.

No it doesn't. The fact that someone does something does not mean that you need to be as powerful as that person to do something. The Outlander defeats Arcann in Chapter 16. The Outlander isn't as powerful as Valkorion, I'm guessing.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No it doesn't. The fact that someone does something does not mean that you need to be as powerful as that person to do something.

Vitiate failed to dominate Hero of Tython like that during a confrontation inside the Dark Temple. Granted that Vitiate was compromised in this confrontation, he still had the raw power to collapse a building and it was not enough to dominate Hero of Tython.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The Outlander defeats Arcann in Chapter 16. The Outlander isn't as powerful as Valkorion, I'm guessing.

Valkorion altered the Force-sensitivity of the Outlander and made him much stronger earlier. The permanently bolstered Outlander also forged a weapon and transformed it into an extension of his will, that he would wield against Arcann.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate failed to dominate Hero of Tython like that during a confrontation inside the Dark Temple. Granted that Vitiate was compromised in this confrontation, he still had the raw power to collapse a building and it was not enough to dominate Hero of Tython.

Yes. And? You can't exactly equate Vitiate's TK during their duel to all of his power being sealed away on Yavin IV. This also has nothing to do with the point.

Valkorion altered the Force-sensitivity of Arcann and made him stronger (chapter 12).


I was aware long before you were. That, still, doesn't change the point. The Outlander isn't as powerful as Valkorion.

TheDarthBoy Senior Member
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Arcann loses more than just his arm and half his face in this fight, that's for sure.

Do you really see Arcann as that lower than Caedus?

Also Im seeing my views on Caedus change he is like a 50/50 fighter..due to the conflicting arguments.

Syndicate Senior Member

I think people have just realized he's not quite the force user they thought along with not actually being a match for Luke.

He's still top tier and above Arcann.

TheDarthBoy Senior Member

Yes that I know Arcaan wont win, but how bad would it be?

Because Caedus views from then to now have changed dramatically.

Syndicate Senior Member

Originally posted by TheDarthBoy
Yes that I know Arcaan wont win, but how bad would it be?

Because Caedus views from then to now have changed dramatically.

Arcann would definitely put up a fight imo. I'm pretty sure he could handle anything Caedus could dish out with the Force but I feel he'd be outdueled.