Anakin and the prophesy of the chosen one and TFA kylo ren

🙄 😕 if anakin is the chosen one who was to bring balance to the force 🙄 😕 how do you explain the events in tfa? 🙄 😕 specifically his grandson kylo killing all of luke's students, and paving the way for the rise of snoke. if anakin brought balance to the force, whence cometh snoke and kylo ren 🙄 😕

That's because TFA has an anti-Star Wars plot and cheapens the original trilogy.

**** Lucas.

'Balance to the Force' doesn't mean "There will never be any bad guys ever again."

In any case, the backstory is far from finished as of yet, so wait out the other films to get the background.

He brought balance 30 years before. Now we need someone else.

The whole prophecy thing was stupid anyway. We still don't know what the prophecy says exactly or where it's from. The TFA makers based themselves on the OT and moved from there.

Originally posted by queeq
The TFA makers based themselves on the OT and moved from there.

And yet in the first lines of TFA they brought up the whole balance to the force issue again. That wasn't in the OT.

So? It's not like they totally ignore the PT. But they do stay away from it.

And from Lucas' point of view: balance=light. And without Jedi who will guard the light. It makes sense from a simple POV.

It's not like they start counting Rey's midichlorians.

So they've clearly acknowledged the PT canon, just taken most their inspiration from the OT is all.

No need to have another dig at midi-chlorians 😠

Of course the PT is canon. Who ever denied that?

He brought balance to the Force. Now it's out of balance again. What's so difficult to understand about that?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He brought balance to the Force. Now it's out of balance again. What's so difficult to understand about that?

Originally posted by redpill
did he now? where was snoke when this so called balanced occured?

He was

Spoiler:
a store cleric.

Edit: sh_t I forgot the spoiler tags, fixed now.

Originally posted by redpill
did he now? where was snoke when this so called balanced occured?

Who knows?

What we do know is Anakin brought balance to the Force, whatever exactly that means.

Originally posted by queeq
Of course the PT is canon. Who ever denied that?

Really, the only reason the PT doesn't feature at all heavily in TFA is because it's not relevant, and they wanted to recreate the feel of the OT.

From my POV, life tends to be in a constant state of flux. Balance doesn't mean static. I see Anakin as a major "correction" of the force. From the way I saw it, too much control and order created a state of apathy/indiferrence prone to greed, pride and corruption which needed to be reset. Anakin reset it and now, as with life, natural forces start to pull from every direction. I might be way off but that's at least how I see it.

Did Lucas actually acknowledge in-canon that light=balance. Shouldn't "balance" actually be equal weight between light and dark?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Did Lucas actually acknowledge in-canon that light=balance. Shouldn't "balance" actually be equal weight between light and dark?

However it appears to be a controversial topic, with differing opinions.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
From my POV, life tends to be in a constant state of flux. Balance doesn't mean static. I see Anakin as a major "correction" of the force. From the way I saw it, too much control and order created a state of apathy/indiferrence prone to greed, pride and corruption which needed to be reset. Anakin reset it and now, as with life, natural forces start to pull from every direction. I might be way off but that's at least how I see it.

Did Lucas actually acknowledge in-canon that light=balance. Shouldn't "balance" actually be equal weight between light and dark?

No, the imbalance was caused by the Sith. Anakin didn't reset anything- he destroyed the evil power that was causing the imbalance.

But that's not to say there cannot be more such treats to come later. We'll need to see more of Snoke's backstory before we can really answer this one.

Without the Jedi, there is no balance. They are the ones that strive for Balance in all things.

Besides which, we have the very simple thing that evil is undesirable. All of Star Wars is about good guys fighting bad guys. TFA makes that pretty clear.

Originally posted by Bentley
That's because TFA has an anti-Star Wars plot and cheapens the original trilogy.

**** Lucas.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I think his point is is that they are not pretending PT concepts don't exist, or somehow shying away from them as you are suggesting. The idea of prophecy through bringing balance to the Force for example has been acknowledged.

Really, the only reason the PT doesn't feature at all heavily in TFA is because it's not relevant, and they wanted to recreate the feel of the OT.

Yeah exactly. We just need to Look at Rebels being almost a sequel series to TCW to know Disney isn't running scared from the Prequel era.

Of course TFA itself was a homage to ANH and not TPM. But that's just the route Abrams decided to take for this particular film IMO. Doesn't mean Disney's running from the Prequels, hence the Prequel references.

I would also think the fact that they considered Hayden making an appearance in TFA, and still might in Episode 8 is pretty telling as well.

Its obvious they've taken the criticisms of the PT onboard, but honestly bar midi-chlorians I can't think of any concepts the trilogy introduced that where particular poorly received by the fandom, there is no reason they'd avoid referring to them.

I mean TCW is among the most successful and critically acclaimed content the franchise has produced, and it's entirely grounded in the PT, there is nothing to be afraid of here.

so if anakin said kylo ren can achieve more power by bringing balance to the force by embracing the light and destroying snoke what will kyo do