Top five marvel and dc martial artists

In no particular order.

Ironfist
Temugin
Matt Murdock
Prince of Orphans
Shang-Chi.

Or there abouts, its pretty arguable.

Moondragon is in there

Originally posted by Galan007
Nope.

Bruce and Val have fought a few times in preboot continuity.

The first time was in Brave and the Bold #5:
http://i.imgur.com/iM3egth.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cb4HqmV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0zQ2Ifg.jpg

The battle was a stalemate for the most part before it was interrupted.

Soon afterward they fought again in JLA #8(The Lightning Saga):
http://i.imgur.com/WwyVRGg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ud2Axt8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/75fkIRI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KBjAroN.jpg

This time we learned that Clark had ranked KK as a class 15 fighter(for a point of comparison, Batman was ranked as a class 12.) Additionally, KK appeared to have a decisive edge this time(despite the multiple cutscenes), and was only stopped when Black Lightning suckered him from behind.

Countdown #50 retold the above battle--this time without the cutscenes:
http://i.imgur.com/ZGjZ5p2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xTSBD2A.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/159WdXO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LFoz78c.jpg

Bruce performed admirably, but KK was still shown to have the clear advantage. In fact, after the battle Bruce said that Clark got it wrong: KK should be a class 25 fighter, not a class 15. Lol.

*Even though these fights occurred the same year(2007), the issue of BatB was set before The Lightning Saga:
http://i.imgur.com/7X8eEUI.jpg

Anywho, Bruce is absolutely skilled enough to give Val the fight of his life, but in a neutral, featureless environment, Val has the advantage.

I guess that Val Armorr's actor nickname is Belt Stealer.

Originally posted by Juk3n

Matt Murdock

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Iron fist isn't more skilled than daredevil.

This is a thread that includes both pure moves, and "superpowers that their martial arts gives them", which is to say chi-mysticism. So yeah, Iron Fist is more skilled than Daredevil, because his skill in pure moves plus his skill in chi-mysticism adds up to more than Daredevil's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Iron fist isn't more skilled than daredevil.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Iron fist isn't more skilled than daredevil.

And they're both beneath Bruce. 😛

I forgot to add Temujin.

Originally posted by VanMae
This is a thread that includes both pure moves, and "superpowers that their martial arts gives them", which is to say chi-mysticism. So yeah, Iron Fist is more skilled than Daredevil, because his skill in pure moves plus his skill in chi-mysticism adds up to more than Daredevil's.

In pure skills he is decisively below Wolverine.

Originally posted by abhilegend
His chi isn't a superpower due to his skills. He took it from Shao Lao when he killed the dragon.

In pure skills he is decisively below Wolverine.

Originally posted by deathslash
actually, he was capable of chi amping even before he killed shao lao. Also, I'm not sure that I'd consider a sparring match to be the decisive thing to go by..

Yes, why not? It's not like I'm showing you ****ing Sue Storm stalemating him him in h2h.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not at current level.

Yes, why not? It's not like I'm showing you ****ing Sue Storm stalemating him him in h2h.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's not like I'm showing you ****ing Sue Storm stalemating him him in h2h.

Originally posted by deathslash
actually, he was capable of chi amping even before he killed shao lao. Also, I'm not sure that I'd consider a sparring match to be the decisive thing to go by..

Iron Fist own Chi makes him peak human.

Of course he had some upgrades since that.

Originally posted by deathslash
you referring to that showing where she used her powers several times in conjunction with her martial abilities? Danny's already beaten logan, Kurt, and colossus down in a single showing.

That was before Logan was established as a martial artist.

Originally posted by abhilegend
His chi isn't a superpower due to his skills. He took it from Shao Lao when he killed the dragon.

In pure skills he is decisively below Wolverine.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I'm not.

That was before Logan was established as a martial artist.

Originally posted by deathslash
he was established as a martial artist in his first series and even then, Kurt was established as a martial artist with superhuman agility.

We are not talking about Nightcrawler here.

And Kurt had no MA skillzzz at that point, either... just a circus freak with enhanced stats and (very limited then) teleportation.