Originally posted by quanchi112I don't appreciate the LotR films enough to represent them. Peter Jackson ****ed it up. The first 3 movies weren't as bad; but he completely molested The Hobbit. I'll tell you this much, just the Books of LoTR would shit all over the books of Harry Potter. Morgoth could solo anyone in HP.
Never read the Lotr books just the hobbit as a kid. That being said the Harry Potter films IMO were superior to the Lotr films. I just wish someone would represent the Lotr side to square off against my Lord Voldemort and his forces.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombI do not know I just know the films versions. I feel like Voldemort would assrape Sauron and middle earth.
I don't appreciate the LotR films enough to represent them. Peter Jackson ****ed it up. The first 3 movies weren't as bad; but he completely molested The Hobbit. I'll tell you this much, just the Books of LoTR would shit all over the books of Harry Potter. Morgoth could solo anyone in HP.
Originally posted by quanchi112Well, like you said just going off of the films I'm not sure. I didn't watch all the HP films as I didn't care for them as much. I'll tell you this much, Pre-One Ring Sauron would defeat anyone in HP. The big mistake he made was putting so much of his power/life force into the one ring. He underestimated the power of the Numenorean men, and Isildur. It was ultimately his downfall. Keep in mind, that it took basically the entire combined fighting forces of Men and Elves coming together to stand a chance against him. And even then it was "luck/fate" that he lost the ring and ultimately himself. The movies don't accurately represent the power or the abilities of alot of the characters in Middle Earth; particularly Gandalf and Sauron.
I do not know I just know the films versions. I feel like Voldemort would assrape Sauron and middle earth.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombWell the film version of Sauron would get Ethelred by Voldemort and his superior magical abilities and feats. Books don't know and don't care.
Well, like you said just going off of the films I'm not sure. I didn't watch all the HP films as I didn't care for them as much. I'll tell you this much, Pre-One Ring Sauron would defeat anyone in HP. The big mistake he made was putting so much of his power/life force into the one ring. He underestimated the power of the Numenorean men, and Isildur. It was ultimately his downfall. Keep in mind, that it took basically the entire combined fighting forces of Men and Elves coming together to stand a chance against him. And even then it was "luck/fate" that he lost the ring and ultimately himself. The movies don't accurately represent the power or the abilities of alot of the characters in Middle Earth; particularly Gandalf and Sauron.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombYou cut the right digit off and he's defeated. Voldemort also has horcruxes. Point is Voldemort would wreck that weak body of his with his powerful magic.
There isn't anything Voldemort could do to harm Sauron. Even in the movies. The only way Voldemort "Defeats" Sauron is by getting the ring into Mount Doom's lava. Aside from that he was basically immortal.
Originally posted by quanchi112Depends.
You cut the right digit off and he's defeated. Voldemort also has horcruxes. Point is Voldemort would wreck that weak body of his with his powerful magic.
Pre-One Ring Sauron wrecks Voldemort.
One-Ring Sauron could lose with digit amputation. I'll give you that.
Post-One Ring Sauron cannot be harmed by Voldemort sans Mt. Doom.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombNot in the film. By the films only we see him a few times and he was defeated twice by magical powers and a broken magical weapon. Films only. Taking forever to overwhelm Gandalf the grey isn't impressive to me considering what I've seen Gandalf do in the films.
Depends.Pre-One Ring Sauron wrecks Voldemort.
One-Ring Sauron could lose with digit amputation. I'll give you that.
Post-One Ring Sauron cannot be harmed by Voldemort sans Mt. Doom.
Originally posted by quanchi112?
Not in the film. By the films only we see him a few times and he was defeated twice by magical powers and a broken magical weapon. Films only. Taking forever to overwhelm Gandalf the grey isn't impressive to me cosmidering what I've seen Gandalf do in the films.
What? You're talking about the Hobbit aren't you? First of all, that's not the Pre-One Ring Sauron I'm referring to. Pre-One ring was AGES before the Hobbit's timeline. The Hobbit movies are shit. Nothing that happened in regards to that encounter happened in the books. Not like that anyway.
Point is, I'm done defending the LoTR films because they pale in comparison to the books and aren't suited to be defended in a vs forum. That being said, if we ever do compare the ACTUAL lore and books; LOTR and The Silmarillion absolutely shit-stomp Harry Potter in pretty much every way.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombI wouldn't know as I didn't read the books. Just a movie fan of both said franchises.
?What? You're talking about the Hobbit aren't you? First of all, that's not the Pre-One Ring Sauron I'm referring to. Pre-One ring was AGES before the Hobbit's timeline. The Hobbit movies are shit. Nothing that happened in regards to that encounter happened in the books. Not like that anyway.
Point is, I'm done defending the LoTR films because they pale in comparison to the books and aren't suited to be defended in a vs forum. That being said, if we ever do compare the ACTUAL lore and books; LOTR and The Silmarillion absolutely shit-stomp Harry Potter in pretty much every way.
Originally posted by playa1258
No franchise has kept the consistent quality that Harry Potter did during it's run. The Hobbit trilogy was a huge step down from the LOTR trilogy. The Star Wars prequels were trash and the MCU has had some missteps too.
MCU >> Harry Potter franchise. It's not only the highest grossing franchise of all time, but it's across the board considered to be great quality as well. The MCU has built a brand and style that other companies would do almost anything to replicate..