Originally posted by Zack Mwhen did I say that?
You were the one who said Karate Kid was the only MA that was impressive in DC and that's hardly true. I've already matched all of MU soldiers and MA not too long ago.Val has evaded the Speed Force Wally West, taken a beating from a DAXAMITE, pinned a pre-Crisis Kryptonian, etc... PC Val was on another level.
While that's all very impressive, what does that have to do with striking power?
For striking feats Val has destroyed a substance that PC Superboy needed the "strength of insanity" to break.
I really do not get why people here have a problem with Karate Kid. A lot of them have trouble with the whole "it's all due to space karate" thing. If you're dodging speed force infused lightning after it hits you and tearing apart beings that gave Supergirl trouble(while sick) then you are far above Iron Fist.
Originally posted by SurturI have no problem with val, but his feats seem to involve striking at his opponent's weak points. I also, don't want to be cheap, but pc Val would be excluded from this (since we go by most recent versions).
For striking feats Val has destroyed a substance that PC Superboy needed the "strength of insanity" to break.I really do not get why people here have a problem with Karate Kid. A lot of them have trouble with the whole "it's all due to space karate" thing. If you're dodging speed force infused lightning after it hits you and tearing apart beings that gave Supergirl trouble(while sick) then you are far above Iron Fist.
Originally posted by Zack MI would really like to see that post, especially since have never and will never think that karate kid is the only skilled martial artist in dc. Yeah, based off of their averages, val would beat danny.
You said it like last month. Since a few of you were just listing feats, so was i. Do you think Val can beat Danny?
Originally posted by deathslash
I have no problem with val, but his feats seem to involve striking at his opponent's weak points. I also, don't want to be cheap, but pc Val would be excluded from this (since we go by most recent versions). I would really like to see that post, especially since have never and will never think that karate kid is the only skilled martial artist in dc. Yeah, based off of their averages, val would beat danny.
You didn't say Val was the only skilled MA, just the only one that's impressive, stats wise or something. I'll try and find it later.
PC Val broke out of Inertron restraints,.held PC Superboy in a muscle lock, and canceled out an earth quake by creating his own with a stomp. So more then Karnak weak point striking.
As for current versions,.nearly every one of them have fought against Kryptonian level speed. The number of martial artists who can do that, you can count on one hand using half the fingers (Mantis is one of them.)
Danny's fast, but not that fast.
Even if you exclude PC stuff you still have him fighting Mon El' and redirecting the guy into another galaxy. You have the whole "dodges speed force infused lightning after being hit" feat. You have the feat of him tearing apart something that gave Supergirl trouble and he was sick when he did it.
Does anyone here think Iron Fist could of replicated those feats?
Originally posted by Surtur
Even if you exclude PC stuff you still have him fighting Mon El' and redirecting the guy into another galaxy. You have the whole "dodges speed force infused lightning after being hit" feat. You have the feat of him tearing apart something that gave Supergirl trouble and he was sick when he did it.Does anyone here think Iron Fist could of replicated those feats?
Mon-el kills danny.