Bane punched holes in concrete pillars; Drago couldn't even KO Rocky.
Mother Russia was beaten by a pre teen, a pre teen hyped on adrenaline boost after a prolonged fight, but a pre teen nonetheless. And she put up a pretty good fight against Russia without the adrenaline boost too. Bane is much stronger than hit girl and has been trained in h2h just as well.
Sure Black Widow survived against Winter Soldier but only due to her speed and agility. Once Bane gets ahold of her he could break her. The only way she wins is if she can immobilize him. And again, the LOS training would allow him to defend himself well enough to grab her and kill her.
The only one here the can match damage soak and strength with Bane is the Russian.
And immunity to pain may not be immunity to injury but, like a PCP junkie, that doesnt matter until the flow or effect of the drug stops, its well documented that people high on drugs can shrug off great damage until the drug wears off. And for this purpose Banes mask isn't coming off so even if he's grievously injured it wouldn't matter until long after the fight is over.
Originally posted by relentless1
Bane punched holes in concrete pillars; Drago couldn't even KO Rocky.Mother Russia was beaten by a pre teen, a pre teen hyped on adrenaline boost after a prolonged fight, but a pre teen nonetheless. And she put up a pretty good fight against Russia without the adrenaline boost too. Bane is much stronger than hit girl and has been trained in h2h just as well.
Sure Black Widow survived against Winter Soldier but only due to her speed and agility. Once Bane gets ahold of her he could break her. The only way she wins is if she can immobilize him. And again, the LOS training would allow him to defend himself well enough to grab her and kill her.
The only one here the can match damage soak and strength with Bane is the Russian.
And immunity to pain may not be immunity to injury but, like a PCP junkie, that doesnt matter until the flow or effect of the drug stops, its well documented that people high on drugs can shrug off great damage until the drug wears off. And for this purpose Banes mask isn't coming off so even if he's grievously injured it wouldn't matter until long after the fight is over.
Lol there you go bein wrong again.
Drago had 2000+psi for his punches with his gloves on. Without them, it'll be even higher. Plus he's Russian military, meaning he's also trained in hand to hand combat beyond boxing even if we didn't see it.
I guess you're gonna neglect to mention that when Hit-Girl took her adrenaline, she was literally moving so fast no one around her could even react to her speed. Or you're gonna ignore how Mother Russia casually ripped an armored/bulletproof police door off it's hinges, then sent a grown man flying with a shove. She's far faster and a much better fighter than Bane.
Widow is basically Cap/Bucky-lite at this point. Anybody who can jump on two guys and break both of their necks on purpose at the same time is above Bane.
Bane can't match anything with the Russian. Russian is stronger than him, and more durable, and faster and everything else. He even handles pain better because he didn't need a mask doping him up to ignore every time Frank hit him except when he disfigured him with boiling water.
Injury vs Pain Ignorance does matter. He might not feel that the Russian snapped his arm, but that doesn't mean it'll work when he tries to swing with it.
Bane loses. Again. Baleman loses by proxy.
Originally posted by KingD19
Lol there you go bein wrong again.Drago had 2000+psi for his punches with his gloves on. Without them, it'll be even higher. Plus he's Russian military, meaning he's also trained in hand to hand combat beyond boxing even if we didn't see it.
I guess you're gonna neglect to mention that when Hit-Girl took her adrenaline, she was literally moving so fast no one around her could even react to her speed. Or you're gonna ignore how Mother Russia casually ripped an armored/bulletproof police door off it's hinges, then sent a grown man flying with a shove. She's far faster and a much better fighter than Bane.
Widow is basically Cap/Bucky-lite at this point. Anybody who can jump on two guys and break both of their necks on purpose at the same time is above Bane.
Bane can't match anything with the Russian. Russian is stronger than him, and more durable, and faster and everything else. He even handles pain better because he didn't need a mask doping him up to ignore every time Frank hit him except when he disfigured him with boiling water.
Injury vs Pain Ignorance does matter. He might not feel that the Russian snapped his arm, but that doesn't mean it'll work when he tries to swing with it.
Bane loses. Again. Baleman loses by proxy.
Agreed, the DC fanboy just cant see past his bias.
Mother Russia did indeed rip the door off a car, but pure strength and fighting strength are two different things. A person able to do that should be able to one punch a kids face into red mist (see what I did there) but she didn't. Same with Drago; yes he had insane punching strength but when it came down to it he couldn't even KO Rocky let alone kill him.
Bane on the other hand showed that he has insane fighting strength; he pushed holes in a concrete pillar and cracked open Batmans mask which is basically a motorcycle helmet which are able to withstand impact from speeds up to 67 mph which is like Cap level shots. Not to mention Gorilla pressing a man in a heavy armoured suit from a laying position.
Silent youre pathetic. Come up with relevant opposition to my arguments like KingD19 or piss off. Nobody cares about your anti Nolan crusade.
Originally posted by KingD19I thought he could beat Mother Russia and the Russian earlier, but after reading through this thread, your right.
Lol there you go bein wrong again.Drago had 2000+psi for his punches with his gloves on. Without them, it'll be even higher. Plus he's Russian military, meaning he's also trained in hand to hand combat beyond boxing even if we didn't see it.
I guess you're gonna neglect to mention that when Hit-Girl took her adrenaline, she was literally moving so fast no one around her could even react to her speed. Or you're gonna ignore how Mother Russia casually ripped an armored/bulletproof police door off it's hinges, then sent a grown man flying with a shove. She's far faster and a much better fighter than Bane.
Widow is basically Cap/Bucky-lite at this point. Anybody who can jump on two guys and break both of their necks on purpose at the same time is above Bane.
Bane can't match anything with the Russian. Russian is stronger than him, and more durable, and faster and everything else. He even handles pain better because he didn't need a mask doping him up to ignore every time Frank hit him except when he disfigured him with boiling water.
Injury vs Pain Ignorance does matter. He might not feel that the Russian snapped his arm, but that doesn't mean it'll work when he tries to swing with it.
Bane loses. Again. Baleman loses by proxy.
Jesus the Batman movie characters are physical pussies. Batman and Bane are some of the most skilled fighters in comics, and they're reduced to shit in these movies.
Originally posted by KingD19
Lol there you go bein wrong again.Drago had 2000+psi for his punches with his gloves on. Without them, it'll be even higher. Plus he's Russian military, meaning he's also trained in hand to hand combat beyond boxing even if we didn't see it.
I guess you're gonna neglect to mention that when Hit-Girl took her adrenaline, she was literally moving so fast no one around her could even react to her speed. Or you're gonna ignore how Mother Russia casually ripped an armored/bulletproof police door off it's hinges, then sent a grown man flying with a shove. She's far faster and a much better fighter than Bane.
Widow is basically Cap/Bucky-lite at this point. Anybody who can jump on two guys and break both of their necks on purpose at the same time is above Bane.
Bane can't match anything with the Russian. Russian is stronger than him, and more durable, and faster and everything else. He even handles pain better because he didn't need a mask doping him up to ignore every time Frank hit him except when he disfigured him with boiling water.
Injury vs Pain Ignorance does matter. He might not feel that the Russian snapped his arm, but that doesn't mean it'll work when he tries to swing with it.
Bane loses. Again. Baleman loses by proxy.
If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times. Drago punching what he did in a set environment, after juicing up, with the ability to pause, compose himself, plant himself and pivot into punch has ZERO bearing in a real fight. He would never be able to land a blow on a single person like that. People overblow that scene to actually believe that is what he's capable in a fight, and it's far from it.
Originally posted by Inhuman
In a real fight in the movie he landed blows and his punches killed one of the best fighters(if not the best) in the Rocky universe.
Incorrect. He never landed a single blow where he:
1. Was in a static training room
2. Just juiced up prior
3. Was allowed to stand in one place
4. Breathe and compose himself
5. Then turn and pivot his hips and feet into punch
Show me one of his fights where he was EVER able to do that in a fight. Not once. It's impossible. Unless handicapped, anybody would be able to get out of the way of it.
Illustrating him killing a way past his prime Creed proves nothing. Putting a disclaimer of the best fighter in the Rockyverse is being disingenuous. He may very have been in his prime, he wasn't near that fighter by the time of Rocky 4. He was over 40, inactive and ill prepared for the fight. To say nothing of boxers become more susceptible and vulnerable as their careers goes on. Creed being where he was at that time could very well mean it was straw that broke the camels back, not that Drago was firing killing blows to any fighter with each hit.
Originally posted by KingD19
He also gave Rocky the worst beating of his life and I'm pretty sure he was the primary if not sole cause of his brain damage.
We've been over this. When the doctors references his brain damage and fighting... it shows ALL his fights. Apollo, Lang and Drago... So clearly it wasn't only Drago, and he certainly wouldn't be the main culprit. That would belong to Creed. He gave Rocky the worst beating of his life in No. 2.