Kylo Ren vs. ESB Luke

Originally posted by Jmanghan
So you don't remember the part in ESB where Luke picked up an X-Wing?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When ?

Regardless, Kylo Ren's force feats, while better, aren't outstanding by any means, and Kylo Ren certainly isn't in Vader's league, nor will he ever be.

I was gonna say he failed at that. Also Ren's fest with the blaster bolt is impressive but not all that. It's just a more advanced application of Force Stasis. Luke may not have any accolades or feats quite on that level but his TK feat with when he was balancing on one hand (IIRC, maybe just a regular handstand) and Yoda standing on his foot using TK to lift several boxes and R2 at the same time with his eyes closed. Not only that but surviving a confrontation with Vader (granted he was holding bank so as not to kill his son but none the less it's fking Vader). Luke takes majority IMO. The Force stasis could be an issue but I don't see Luke losing just from that.

Originally posted by Rebel95
They both have Skywalker blood so I'm assuming they have equal potential,

Nah Luke should have greater potential.

I think Kylo would win this one.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
My bad. I confused Yoda with Luke.

Regardless, Kylo Ren's force feats, while better, aren't outstanding by any means, and Kylo Ren certainly isn't in Vader's league, nor will he ever be.

Originally posted by red8
I think Kylo would win this one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh yes he most certainly will as he's already eclipsed him in evil.

Thats why Voldemort is more powerful then Palpatine, and Ren is more powerful then Vader, right?

Kylo will become as powerful as Vader, just wait.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Kylo will become as powerful as Vader, just wait.

Actually no, because at this point Savage Opress would tool him.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Being more Evil translates to how powerful someone can become.

Thats why Voldemort is more powerful then Palpatine, and Ren is more powerful then Vader, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't but Kylo will become as powerful as him by the next film IMO. Wait and see.

I think the gap will shrink *tremendously*, but he'll still need more experience if he wants to match him.

Originally posted by Q99
I think the gap will shrink *tremendously*, but he'll still need more experience if he wants to match him.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Luke stomps.

This is a no contest.

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What makes you think that