Kylo Ren very underrated

He can block a lightsaber using his hand: “The weapon went flying into the snow. Unarmed, he raised a hand and utilized the Force to fend off one slashing blow after another"

J.J. Abrams describes Kylo Ren as “an incredible power, an incredible force, and incredible potential

TFA Visual Dictionary says he is an almost unstoppable force: "The darkside flows through Kylo Ren, making him an almost unstoppable force on the field of battle"

These quotes show what kind of condition Kylo was in during his fight against Finn and Rey;
“Stunned by his own action, Kylo Ren fell to this knees. Following through on the act ought to have made him stronger, a part of him believed. Instead, he found himself weakened.” -TFA Novel
“Amid the rising bedlam and confusion, Kylo Ren struggled to stand.” -TFA Novel

The fact he was even able to get up after being shot by Chewie's bowcaster is very impressive. The bowcaster was shown throughout the movie to blow stormtroopers off their feet. Kylo was shot in the GUT and he still went on to beat Finn and almost Rey. At one point, he could have finished her:
"Ren held his lightsaber, poised to strike. 'I could kill you right now. But there is another way.'" -TFA Novelization
If it weren't for his injury, Finn and Rey would be dead.

"It was his deadly lightsaber skills that prevented the return of the Jedi Order" -TFA Visual Dictionary

Wanted to post this so people would stop saying how weak he is because he lost to Rey.

luke was a lazy whiney underachiever until ep6.

oh ok cool

He is so strong and such a great character that people want him to change between films in order to make sense of him as a villain.

He has great potential. Can't wait for the next movie.

Originally posted by Rebel95
He has great potential. Can't wait for the next movie.

That's the whole point of TFA, to wait for the next movie.

I like Kylo.

Kylo was the worst part of TFA.
He's the reincarnation of AotC Anakin.
Instead of crying about how coarse sand is, he throws whiny temper tantrums.
Even before he took off his helmet, he seemed like a really bland villain.

What can save Kylo? Better acting and a haircut.

Also, they should under no circumstances redeem him. He could actually become interesting if he fully embraces the Dark Side.

He's not the reincarnation of Anakin. Kylo has a character.

Originally posted by Bentley
That's the whole point of TFA, to wait for the next movie.

Sounds like you weren't a fan of ESB either.

Originally posted by ares834
Sounds like you weren't a fan of ESB either.

Personally I'm a big fans of open endings when the things we have been told so far make sense. So ESB is acceptable except from the "He is our only hope -No, there is another" plot, which never amounted to anything anyways.

It was supposed to though... but George took a short cut and made it rather unimportant.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
luke was a lazy whiney underachiever until ep6.

Eh?....Cause helping to destroy a moon sized battle station and going on to lead a famous Squadron of pilots is lazy.

Yeah, I don't get that either.

F*ck his swallowing his sadness over his home's burning, f*ck his leaving it all behind to become a Jedi, f*ck his rescue mission of Leia, f*ck his do-or-die run on the Death Star trench, f*ck his taking down a wampa and surviving the wastes of an ice planet, f*ck his head-on attack to defend the Rebel transports, f*ck his training with Yoda, f*ck his devotion to leave the training behind to save his friends, f*ck his steadfast confrontation with the Lord of Evil, and f*ck his stupid haircut.

Yeah, what a whiny, do nothing, underachieving loser. He didn't even have an opinion on sand!

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
F*ck his swallowing his sadness over his home's burning, f*ck his leaving it all behind to become a Jedi, f*ck his rescue mission of Leia, f*ck his do-or-die run on the Death Star trench, f*ck his taking down a wampa and surviving the wastes of an ice planet, f*ck his head-on attack to defend the Rebel transports, f*ck his training with Yoda, f*ck his devotion to leave the training behind to save his friends, f*ck his steadfast confrontation with the Lord of Evil, and f*ck his stupid haircut.

Yeah, what a whiny, do nothing, underachieving loser. He didn't even have an opinion on sand!

Unforgivable. The apple does fall far from the tree.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Unforgivable. The apple does fall far from the tree.

Also, welcome back. Again. Stick around this time or die, huh?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Eh?....Cause helping to destroy a moon sized battle station and going on to lead a famous Squadron of pilots is lazy.

in which film did he lead a famous squadron, again? my memory is hazy.

blowing up the deathstar and very sloppily destroying a single AT-AT seemed to be his only significant accomplishments on film until ep6.

Plus helping save Leia and getting the Death Star plans to the Rebels.

He was a bit of a failure in ESB though.