Originally posted by Bardock42
1. A claim that the German press is taking orders of the government, even if one of the public broadcasting companies did, would be incorrect and disingenuous. The German press is far more than the ZDF.
If any single member of the News Media is taking any sort of direction from the government on what news to focus on or what news to not focus on, then it is definitely taking orders...
No one said 'holy shit, every single news media outlet in all of the fatherland is taking orders from the government.'
Let me make it clearer that it seems like you're moving the goalposts. He said some shit about having to take orders, about what news to cover, from the government; he probably got in trouble, then he contradicted himself a few days later to repair the damage.
Are you still trying to play a word game with "The Press"? If so, "The Press" and "news media" are interchangeable. Actually, "News Media" would be more accurate as "The Press" is still an often used but clearly outdated phrase.
Originally posted by Bardock42
2. That's literally what I said. He has taken back/clarified this claim a few days later, so even the guy the article is based on doesn't stand by the claim.
No no, that's not what you said. You clearly used strong language in support of his words. had you be honest in your presentation of what happened, you would have used the same language as the article and used the word "contradicted himself" or something similar. Based on your clear position, you cannot wriggle away from what you were trying to do.
You were trying to paint TI as an idiot tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist about the government clearly controlling the News Media in Germany. A major figure (former) in the News Media said it happens. Then he contradicted himself a few days later and tried to back-peddle. This is what happened. TI is not some tin-foil hat idiot when it comes to this particular topic. It's despicable that the German government is doing this. But we already knew they spied on people...so it should not be shocking that they try to at least partially control The Press in some way. The US does the same (...rather obvious that politics are intimately involved in The Media. Why would Germany be any different?).
Originally posted by Bardock42
My Agenda is to set right the incorrect claims by the OP and article quoted within.
But that wasn't necessary. If you were approaching the topic as honestly as possible, you'd post something like, "I'd like to point out that he later contradicted himself and tried to back-peddle on his words. So take that what it is worth."
Originally posted by Bardock42
And I "pretend" that TI is an "idiot tin-foul hat conspiracy theorist"...cause he is.
He doesn't deny that some of his beliefs get a little tin-foil hatty. I think he's even post that about himself a couple of times. But I think you're taking it too far. Is there a feud between you two?