Retired Media Boss outs Governments

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Retired Media Boss outs Governments

"A retired media boss at a major German state broadcaster has admitted his network and others take orders from the government on what — and what not — to report.

National public service broadcaster Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen (ZDF), which was recently forced into a humiliating apology for their silence on migrant violence and sex assault is being drawn into a fresh scandal after one of their former bureau chiefs admitted the company takes orders from the government on what it reports. He said journalists received instructions to write news that would be “to Ms. Merkel’s liking”.

Former head of ZDF Bonn Dr. Wolfgang Herles make the remarks during a radio event (from minute 27) in Berlin where journalists discussed the media landscape. Moving on to the freedom of the press, the panel chair asked Dr. Herles whether things in Germany had got “seriously out of whack”. With an honesty perhaps unusual in Germany, Dr. Herles replied that ordinary Germans were totally losing faith in the media, something he called a “scandal”. He said:"

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/02/top-german-journalist-admits-live-on-air-national-news-agenda-set-by-government/

The German press taking orders from the government on what to publish and what not to publish?

Well! I never! This is something the German press has never ever done, before! 😆

This is not something new. Biased reporting has always been rampant even in the early days of journalism. Governments control and censor their respective media outlets on what or what not to publish. It's called propaganda.

a) It's not about "the press" but one of the public broadcasting companies
b) a few days later he denied that he meant this (and it is taken out of context) and vehemently states that there are no orders from the government

http://www.focus.de/kultur/medien/debatte-um-oeffentlich-rechtliche-berichterstattung-anweisungen-von-oben-ex-zdf-mann-sorgt-mit-kontroll-aussage-fuer-aufregung_id_5254103.html

Once more Breitbart and TI as its faithful tool spreads lies and misinformation.

That article disproves nothing. We know how shady you germans are though.

National broadcasters do this everywhere. The only difference in democracies is that they change their output depending on which party is in power. The BBC, so-called 'impartial' state broadcaster is exactly the same. Almost no coverage of anti-government protests at all despite some of them having hundreds of thousands of people at them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
a) It's not about "the press" but one of the public broadcasting companies
b) a few days later he denied that he meant this (and it is taken out of context) and vehemently states that there are no orders from the government

http://www.focus.de/kultur/medien/debatte-um-oeffentlich-rechtliche-berichterstattung-anweisungen-von-oben-ex-zdf-mann-sorgt-mit-kontroll-aussage-fuer-aufregung_id_5254103.html

Once more Breitbart and TI as its faithful tool spreads lies and misinformation.

1. Wait wait wait...a public broadcasting company has literally 0 involvement with The Press, also known as "The News Media"? Your word game is just not going to fly. If they had even a tiny iota of involvement with news media, this does cover "The Press." 😐 Since this was literally about news, this is definitely about the press. He literally talked directly about the type of news they were supposed to report on. What are you actually trying to do with this point of yours? It seems like someone is holding a red pen in front of you and you're saying, "nope! It's blue!"
2. This excuse is just not going to fly. In the very article you posted, it states the he contradicts himself a few days later.

What is your agenda/your game? Why are you pretending like this isn't an issue and then also pretending the TI is an idiot tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist? There's no if ands or buts about this: he said some shit that landed him in hot water which clearly indicates a political agenda from the government.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Wait wait wait...a public broadcasting company has literally 0 involvement with The Press, also known as "The News Media"? Your word game is just not going to fly. If they had even a tiny iota of involvement with news media, this does cover "The Press." 😐 Since this was literally about news, this is definitely about the press. He literally talked directly about the type of news they were supposed to report on. What are you actually trying to do with this point of yours? It seems like someone is holding a red pen in front of you and you're saying, "nope! It's blue!"
2. This excuse is just not going to fly. In the very article you posted, it states the he contradicts himself a few days later.

What is your agenda/your game? Why are you pretending like this isn't an issue and then also pretending the TI is an idiot tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist? There's no if ands or buts about this: he said some shit that landed him in hot water which clearly indicates a political agenda from the government.

1. A claim that the German press is taking orders of the government, even if one of the public broadcasting companies did, would be incorrect and disingenuous. The German press is far more than the ZDF.

2. That's literally what I said. He has taken back/clarified this claim a few days later, so even the guy the article is based on doesn't stand by the claim.

My Agenda is to set right the incorrect claims by the OP and article quoted within.

And I "pretend" that TI is an "idiot tin-foul hat conspiracy theorist"...cause he is.

Look at clownshoes insuting me now.

You are a spoiled liberal who cares nothing but the furtherment of big government and utopian ideology. And instead of doing it by force you take the passive aggressive approach of getting other people to do it for you.

On top of that you are a rich white liberal from a country that has killed millions of people and now because of its past is now ruining the lives of your current citizens that you don't care about.

Which country hasn't killed millions of people tbh

Oh here comes the "it's ok cause."

👆

Germany is haunted by its past actions. What goes around comes around.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Which country hasn't killed millions of people tbh

Canada? 😂

Originally posted by Stigma
Canada? 😂

We still killed our fair share of people up here.

To make up for it though, we have more or less ruined the hopes and dreams of the Native populace.

Originally posted by Bardock42
1. A claim that the German press is taking orders of the government, even if one of the public broadcasting companies did, would be incorrect and disingenuous. The German press is far more than the ZDF.

If any single member of the News Media is taking any sort of direction from the government on what news to focus on or what news to not focus on, then it is definitely taking orders...

No one said 'holy shit, every single news media outlet in all of the fatherland is taking orders from the government.'

Let me make it clearer that it seems like you're moving the goalposts. He said some shit about having to take orders, about what news to cover, from the government; he probably got in trouble, then he contradicted himself a few days later to repair the damage.

Are you still trying to play a word game with "The Press"? If so, "The Press" and "news media" are interchangeable. Actually, "News Media" would be more accurate as "The Press" is still an often used but clearly outdated phrase.

Originally posted by Bardock42
2. That's literally what I said. He has taken back/clarified this claim a few days later, so even the guy the article is based on doesn't stand by the claim.

No no, that's not what you said. You clearly used strong language in support of his words. had you be honest in your presentation of what happened, you would have used the same language as the article and used the word "contradicted himself" or something similar. Based on your clear position, you cannot wriggle away from what you were trying to do.

You were trying to paint TI as an idiot tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist about the government clearly controlling the News Media in Germany. A major figure (former) in the News Media said it happens. Then he contradicted himself a few days later and tried to back-peddle. This is what happened. TI is not some tin-foil hat idiot when it comes to this particular topic. It's despicable that the German government is doing this. But we already knew they spied on people...so it should not be shocking that they try to at least partially control The Press in some way. The US does the same (...rather obvious that politics are intimately involved in The Media. Why would Germany be any different?).

Originally posted by Bardock42
My Agenda is to set right the incorrect claims by the OP and article quoted within.

But that wasn't necessary. If you were approaching the topic as honestly as possible, you'd post something like, "I'd like to point out that he later contradicted himself and tried to back-peddle on his words. So take that what it is worth."

Originally posted by Bardock42
And I "pretend" that TI is an "idiot tin-foul hat conspiracy theorist"...cause he is.

He doesn't deny that some of his beliefs get a little tin-foil hatty. I think he's even post that about himself a couple of times. But I think you're taking it too far. Is there a feud between you two?

I guess we disagree then, what can you do.