Originally posted by quanchi112simple facts. Gds darkseid one shots a high Herald into acoma, casually tanks superboy and super girl wailing on him, mindrapes millions, turning an infant into a legit trans tier character, casually transporting people through time, teleportation, etc. Plus, it literally required high father and orion both to weaken up ds to the point that the legion could even feel confident about taking him.
What makes you say so ?
Originally posted by Galan007
DCnU Darkseid wins. He is a bonafide universal+ power, who has a bonafide universal abstract concept(ie. death) as his puppet.
Yeah, but he got beaten back by Superman.
GDS Darkseid pretty much tanked everything an amped up pre crisis Legion threw at him.
Not to mention Mordru and Time Trapper while at less then full strength. They're high end cosmic class beings themselves.
Originally posted by deathslashHe was amped so you believe this amped Seid is far greater than dcnu Darkseid so oneshotting a herald is simply beyond dcnu Seid. Interesting.
simple facts. Gds darkseid one shots a high Herald into acoma, casually tanks superboy and super girl wailing on him, mindrapes millions, turning an infant into a legit trans tier character, casually transporting people through time, teleportation, etc. Plus, it literally required high father and orion both to weaken up ds to the point that the legion could even feel confident about taking him.
Originally posted by quanchi112he wasn't amped. He specifically said that he wasn't back up to his top level of power. Oneshotting a Herald isn't beyond him. Oneshotting a Jerald into acoma is a totally different thing though.
He was amped so you believe this amped Seid is far greater than dcnu Darkseid so oneshotting a herald is simply beyond dcnu Seid. Interesting.
Originally posted by -K-M-probably referring to superman briefly matching him before he got teleported away. Anyway half od the omega beams koing superman doesn't quite compare to one blast putting Mon El in acoma, or blasting superman into the past, or turning daxam's red sun into a yellow sun.
When?Hell half of the omega beams KO'ed Superman
Originally posted by cdtm
Early Nu52 JLA. Darkseid did indeed manhandle the team, until Supes took off the gloves and started wailing on him.I believe he simply beat him back through a boom toob, though.
No he didn't. Superman also had assistance from the JLA and darkseid ended up manhandling him and was dragging him in the boomtube until he was freed by the team 😬
Originally posted by cdtmNot exactly. Superman hit him once, and then Darkseid casually overpowered him:
Yeah, but he got beaten back by Superman.
*And this was after it was established that a gesture from Darkseid can incapacitate the entire League, and half of the OB can ktfo Superman.
Originally posted by Galan007
Not exactly. Superman hit him once, and then Darkseid casually overpowered him:
http://i.imgur.com/2Fvo1IY.jpg
Had it not been for Cyborg's deus ex technopathy, it was made abundantly clear that the League would have been decimated.*And this was after it was established that a gesture from Darkseid can incapacitate the entire League, and half of the OB can ktfo Superman.
Ah, thank you.
Looks like all those years of "Jobberseid" took its toll on me. 🙂
Just the same, Darkseid had to put some effort into overpowering Superman, while GDS Darkseid outright physically tortured an amped PC Kara.
Originally posted by cdtm
Early Nu52 JLA. Darkseid did indeed manhandle the team, until Supes took off the gloves and started wailing on him.I believe he simply beat him back through a boom toob, though.
Originally posted by Galan007
Not exactly. Superman hit him once, and then Darkseid casually overpowered him:
http://i.imgur.com/2Fvo1IY.jpg
Had it not been for Cyborg's deus ex technopathy, it was made abundantly clear that the League would have been decimated.*And this was after it was established that a gesture from Darkseid can incapacitate the entire League, and half of the OB can ktfo Superman.
Gun to my head I'd choose New 52 DS.
