The Son an gauntlet

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Abe got trashed.

Even by statements...
Anakin full potential = 100% = 2x Palpatine, Yoda >= Palpatine = 50% FP Anakin.
FP Anakin > Son and Daughter -> Son < 50% FP Anakin, same for Daughter
FP Anakin > Father = below 100% Anakin.

So
Anakin 100
Father < 100
Yoda 50+
Palpatine 50
Son < 50

Nope.

Full potential Anakin didn't beat them. It was Mortis-amped Chosen Anakin.

Just because Anakin could've been twice as powerful as Sidious if he was never injured, doesn't mean that 200% of Sidious was his upper limit.

Lulz, so not even facts and logic works, nor feats? The fanboyism is strong in here.

The ones are like midichlorians or JarJar, the worst of the new canon. Good thing the retarded eu is non canon, sans the Thrawn Trilogy there was only crap, mediocre at best.

Interesting how you accuse everyone else of bias and fanboyism then immediately devolve into a rant where you compare the Ones to Jar Jar and call them retarded mediocre crap.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Even by statements...
Anakin full potential = 100% = 2x Palpatine, Yoda >= Palpatine = 50% FP Anakin.
FP Anakin > Son and Daughter -> Son < 50% FP Anakin, same for Daughter
FP Anakin > Father = below 100% Anakin.

So
Anakin 100
Father < 100
Yoda 50+
Palpatine 50
Son < 50

I'm serious did you see how,the son tooled Anakin in the very next episode?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Lulz, so not even facts and logic works, nor feats? The fanboyism is strong in here.

The ones are like midichlorians or JarJar, the worst of the new canon. Good thing the retarded eu is non canon, sans the Thrawn Trilogy there was only crap, mediocre at best.

Fanboyism? My dear McAbe, your dementia is showing.

Leeland Chee, one of the foremost writers and experts on canon, stated that the strongest force user within the entire franchise/mythos was the Father.

Secondly. Two of the ones(Daughter and Son) are worshipped by Dathomir as gods. Thus cementing their power.

Thirdly, Anakin was able to best the Ones by channeling the power of Mortis, hence the nickname Zonakin and Mortis Anakin. Mortis, is, thus far, the strongest nexus of the force that we've seen.

Fourthly. Regardless of what you think happened, the facts are that the Father was growing weaker and anything he failed to do at that point in time, can be attributed to that fact.

Simply put, the One's are the most powerful beings in the galaxy. It is only through Anakin's corruption and empowerment at the hands of The Son that he is able to best both Yoda and Sheev, never is this stated to be backwards.

Think about that, if Abeloth, their arguably inferior counterpart, is able to withstand force blasts from Luke and Ben, is capable of city level destruction, what are her superior capable of?

The facts are on our side, not on yours. You wouldn't be barking fanboyism were this not the case. Do come back with real facts, not twisted logic, dear.

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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Lulz, so not even facts and logic works, nor feats? The fanboyism is strong in here.

The ones are like midichlorians or JarJar, the worst of the new canon. Good thing the retarded eu is non canon, sans the Thrawn Trilogy there was only crap, mediocre at best.

LOL damn, Abe got trashed and is in a fit of rage now

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Fanboyism? My dear McAbe, your dementia is showing.

Leeland Chee, one of the foremost writers and experts on canon, stated that the strongest force user within the entire franchise/mythos was the Father.

Secondly. Two of the ones(Daughter and Son) are worshipped by Dathomir as gods. Thus cementing their power.

Thirdly, Anakin was able to best the Ones by channeling the power of Mortis, hence the nickname Zonakin and Mortis Anakin. Mortis, is, thus far, the strongest nexus of the force that we've seen.

Fourthly. Regardless of what you think happened, the facts are that the Father was growing weaker and anything he failed to do at that point in time, can be attributed to that fact.

Simply put, the One's are the most powerful beings in the galaxy. It is only through Anakin's corruption and empowerment at the hands of The Son that he is able to best both Yoda and Sheev, never is this stated to be backwards.

Think about that, if Abeloth, their arguably inferior counterpart, is able to withstand force blasts from Luke and Ben, is capable of city level destruction, what are her superior capable of?

The facts are on our side, not on yours. You wouldn't be barking fanboyism were this not the case. Do come back with real facts, not twisted logic, dear.

Leeland ist not Georg Lucas and the main Man stated that Palpatine is the most powerful Darkside User, Yoda the most powerful Light Side User and Anakin can surpass them both. GL canon > all.

Secondly, truth be told, the ones are canonicaly just a shared force vision, they are the product of Anakin, Obiwan and Ahsoka. Similar to the Dagobah cave they are nothing more than a product of the conflict that takes place in Anakin. Well, since Anakin was able to best them, master them and in the end they all died, they are no gods. They never existed in the first place, they were created as a vision. Annakin was even in this vision stated to be above them.

Good point, with the nexus, but it works against you. Since the Ones are there from the start, they are also able to use this nexus of power, they are amplfied by it and since they are more in tune with it, it's laughable to see how easily Anakin bested them. Now imagine someone like Palpatine there, he would use the Nexus even better, he would kill the father, the daughter and enslave the son. Just in the Vision, we saw how well Yoda treats his vision compared to Anakin or Luke.

Facts? LOL
Facts according to GL.
Anakin FP > all. POINT.
Palpatine = most powetrful DS user EVER. Point.
Yoda = most powerful LS user EVER. Point.
The Ones = just force Visions.

If we go by this we can even say that the ones are Father 40% of Anakin, Daughter and Son each 30%.

Lulz, I go by the canon, GL canon, then Disney canon, not the other crap. Sorry bruh. But you can imagine your own SW where the ones are really the most powerful beings in the galaxy. If it makes you happy, more power to you, boy.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Leeland ist not Georg Lucas and the main Man stated that Palpatine is the most powerful Darkside User, Yoda the most powerful Light Side User and Anakin can surpass them both. GL canon > all.

Secondly, truth be told, the ones are canonicaly just a shared force vision, they are the product of Anakin, Obiwan and Ahsoka. Similar to the Dagobah cave they are nothing more than a product of the conflict that takes place in Anakin. Well, since Anakin was able to best them, master them and in the end they all died, they are no gods. They never existed in the first place, they were created as a vision. Annakin was even in this vision stated to be above them.

Good point, with the nexus, but it works against you. Since the Ones are there from the start, they are also able to use this nexus of power, they are amplfied by it and since they are more in tune with it, it's laughable to see how easily Anakin bested them. Now imagine someone like Palpatine there, he would use the Nexus even better, he would kill the father, the daughter and enslave the son. Just in the Vision, we saw how well Yoda treats his vision compared to Anakin or Luke.

Facts? LOL
Facts according to GL.
Anakin FP > all. POINT.
Palpatine = most powetrful DS user EVER. Point.
Yoda = most powerful LS user EVER. Point.
The Ones = just force Visions.

If we go by this we can even say that the ones are Father 40% of Anakin, Daughter and Son each 30%.

Lulz, I go by the canon, GL canon, then Disney canon, not the other crap. Sorry bruh. But you can imagine your own SW where the ones are really the most powerful beings in the galaxy. If it makes you happy, more power to you, boy.

The personification of the dark side, the Son plots to kill the Father, and is held in check only by the Daughter and the Father's determination to preserve the Balance.

Source: The Ultimate Visual Guide: Updated and Expanded

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Well I've never seen sidious do anything like these feats here. It even says that the Son is the dark side incarnate.

One thing you must look is timing. Clone wars came after Revenge of the Sith novel, so yea there would be no issue with Sidious being the dark sides most powerful thing since The Son didn't exist. Also the Son was dead, so really Sidious could fill the part due to the Son being dead. Sidious is the most powerful Sith of all time, but he is the second greatest dark side user, after the Son. If you involve EU third after Abeloth and The Son.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Leeland ist not Georg Lucas and the main Man stated that Palpatine is the most powerful Darkside User, Yoda the most powerful Light Side User and Anakin can surpass them both. GL canon > all.

Secondly, truth be told, the ones are canonicaly just a shared force vision, they are the product of Anakin, Obiwan and Ahsoka. Similar to the Dagobah cave they are nothing more than a product of the conflict that takes place in Anakin. Well, since Anakin was able to best them, master them and in the end they all died, they are no gods. They never existed in the first place, they were created as a vision. Annakin was even in this vision stated to be above them.

Good point, with the nexus, but it works against you. Since the Ones are there from the start, they are also able to use this nexus of power, they are amplfied by it and since they are more in tune with it, it's laughable to see how easily Anakin bested them. Now imagine someone like Palpatine there, he would use the Nexus even better, he would kill the father, the daughter and enslave the son. Just in the Vision, we saw how well Yoda treats his vision compared to Anakin or Luke.

Facts? LOL
Facts according to GL.
Anakin FP > all. POINT.
Palpatine = most powetrful DS user EVER. Point.
Yoda = most powerful LS user EVER. Point.
The Ones = just force Visions.

If we go by this we can even say that the ones are Father 40% of Anakin, Daughter and Son each 30%.

Lulz, I go by the canon, GL canon, then Disney canon, not the other crap. Sorry bruh. But you can imagine your own SW where the ones are really the most powerful beings in the galaxy. If it makes you happy, more power to you, boy.

You're just digging your own grave, buddy.

Abe do you have any proof that the Ones are just a vision? Because SW.com kinda confirms their existence, there was a signal that drew the Jedi to that system, and time space did bend in that system.

Plus in Legends, FOTJ really confirms their existence.

It's funny how you're calling us fanboys for using"non canon" stuff, but you're using quotes from someone whom... Doesn't even own star wars anymore.

I'll respond when I'm done working.

Lucas never said most of that shit anyway. 😂

Abe should quit while he's behind.

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