Originally posted by Zenwolf
Everyone forgetting about just being a Dark Jedi now? 😛 OP never said specifically you had to be in either Order, just a side and Dark Jedi are Jedi...just dark! I mean Dark Jedi, you could just be that one guy on some far off planet with strange powers that no one would understand. (Of course this would extend to you, as you'd have no real clue what you're doing...at least by comparison of actual training. Though you could end up finding old artifacts on said world that would help.)There you could conquer the people and rule over the planet you're on, I mean Dark Force Adepts can pretty much mind dominate entire tribes and predatory beasts. So I mean, you could be ruling some far off planet and the Jedi or Sith Orders would never really know, unless it's obvious.
Dark Jedi tend to be like mini-sith, self destructive only on a smaller scale.
With the exception of Set Harth- who, like Vectivus, did have to live a constant lie- what Dark Jedi really has that good an end? Tons of them end up being used as pawns of sith. Stronger force users usually roll into town sooner or later, and either a Jedi defeats you or a Sith decides you'd make good fodder.
And, yea, you could make yourself tribal warlord of nowhere land, but who really wants to? That route means you move to nowhere land, permanently.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
/ShrugMeh Q I was just merely pointing out an alternative, where one isn't chained to rules of either Order.
Yea, it's an alternative, but with a Jedi, you can be a well-respected champion of the galaxy. And if you quit, you can, like, raise a family and stuff.
Darksiders tends to lead more... bitter lives.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
lol @ The Sith optionThe dark side is an inherently corrupting influence on a spiritual and physical level. 9/10, it's going to chew you up and spit you out regardless of your intentions.
It's basically a choice between "mass murdering war criminal" or "living as a robot to avoid becoming a mass murdering war criminal."
The Force is pretty much a curse.
You can always be a Jolee Bindo.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Sorry for double post.Kreia isn't grey, she was Darth Traya and became Darth Traya gain in KotOR II.
Gray is Jolee Bindo.
But she kept Sion and Nihilus in line. If you noticed, under her rule, neither killed innocents, just Jedi. After breaking free Nihilus drained a planet and manipulated Vaklu into starting a civil war, Sion slaughtered an entire Hammerhead cruiser's crew along with his Assassins.
Everything that happened during was of the Exile's own choosing, that and of her allies. She scolds you for slaughtering people mindlessly.
And even after she supposedly "falls" she doesn't kill anyone(aside from the Sith Assassins) She actually spares Atton, Bao Dur, the Remote, Visas,etc. Likely because it suits her needs, but even at the end of the game she could'a killed em all, yet she didn't.
Kreia's not sith, not dark, not truly. She's gray, and to quote Kate Mulgrew the voice actress of another morally ambiguous, and great character;
"Life is gray, you know that. The more experienced the person is, the deeper they go into life. The less black and white it is, and that incredibly interesting shade of gray gets to be played. But within that shade there are infinite variety's, right? So i think that's just her, the black is the bad guy, the white is the good guy; But we all know the true parameters of life lie in-between those two, and flemethKreia is the absolute exploration thereof"
So Kreia's gray, just a darker shade of it.
The force is a curse on the Jedi and sith if you look at it from a certain prospective. As tempest said.
Kreia hated it, she hated that there were only two sides to the force so she wanted to destroy it, like a slave desires to kill they're master.
If you really wanna go deep, malachor, dromund, The valley, Korriban , Dxun, Lehon. These places were corrupted because it was the will of the Force. Everything is summarized to have happened because the Force wishes it to happen. So drawing on Malachor isn't a Dark Sided thing to do, it's a nexus created because the force willed it. It's just as natural as the power in dantooine, coruscant, Tython, Ossus, etc.
As bad as the Sith are..the Jedi are just flat out boring. But to be honest I don't think I'd choose either side.
I'd probably tap into some dark side powers though. At least if I needed them to get what I wanted. But I don't think you'd have to really do anything majorly impressive with the force to become wealthy with it. I really wouldn't care about fighting a galactic war. Who knows, maybe I'd be some kind of mercenary if I was looking for adventure. It is better then being a jedi.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
The force is a curse on the Jedi and sith if you look at it from a certain prospective. As tempest said.
Actually I'd argue the curse comes from choosing one side or the other. It seems with either side if you choose it you need to embrace it to the extreme. That is where the curse comes in. If someone lives on some distant world and has force powers but isn't a jedi or sith and they haven't even really been trained..the force isn't much of a curse. Hell it might even come in handy, like when Anakin was using the force to podrace. Notice Anakin only became "cursed" so to speak once the jedi began training him while also telling him he was space jesus and shockingly that situation did not end well.
Originally posted by Surtur
As bad as the Sith are..the Jedi are just flat out boring. But to be honest I don't think I'd choose either side.
Eh, depends a lot on the Jedi. There's wandering hermits, there's diplomats, there's Jedi archeologists, weapons trainers. In short, there's a number of jobs you can take as a Jedi.
I'd probably tap into some dark side powers though. At least if I needed them to get what I wanted. But I don't think you'd have to really do anything majorly impressive with the force to become wealthy with it. I really wouldn't care about fighting a galactic war. Who knows, maybe I'd be some kind of mercenary if I was looking for adventure. It is better then being a jedi.
Tapping darkside powers is pretty risky.
Though there is something said to 'just use low-level force powers and get rich.' Like, if you're below the level of Jedi or Sith, I think you could fly under the radar pretty easily.
Originally posted by Surtur
Actually I'd argue the curse comes from choosing one side or the other. It seems with either side if you choose it you need to embrace it to the extreme.
That's the thing, unless you aren't in full control of your emotions, you'll be very susceptible to the dark side. Hell even Jedi like Meetra, Revan, Kyle and Dooku had the best of intentions when they fell, and while Revan/Meetra maybe a bit unknown there, we do know that Revan created the very sith that drove the Jedi to near extinction.
Meetra caused mass murder in a war and created one of the powerful nexus' in recorded sw history.
Dooku fell because he wanted to do better for the galaxy, yet he ends up doing mass murders, near genocides etc.
Kyle was in pure bloodlust when Jan was taken from him both times.
In end, unless you're a fully trained and proper jedi, you'll always be susceptible to the darkness.
That is where the curse comes in. If someone lives on some distant world and has force powers but isn't a jedi or sith and they haven't even really been trained..the force isn't much of a curse. Hell it might even come in handy, like when Anakin was using the force to podrace.[quote]Think of the Rakata and where that led them, of the Harunn Kal. The force is a curse because it deprives people of normal lives, it makes the content ambitious.
[Quote] Notice Anakin only became "cursed" so to speak once the jedi began training him while also telling him he was space jesus and shockingly that situation did not end well.
Because unlike others, like Kenobi, he was brought in at an age where he experienced various headships, where he had a desire to free slaves, an emotional connection to his mother, because he had experienced an unprecedented amount of emotions not as a normal being but as a slave. Hate, pain, sadness, etc a wish to end his captors and live free.