8th Day Juggernaut Vs PC Validus · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by Horrificus
well, this might b tough for him to replicate...

Whoa. What level Juggernaut is that?

Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Val wins. Easily.

nuts

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by golem370
Juggernaut is known from tanking just about every blunt force trauma I think it would be the same here too. He is not going to lose via physical attacks.

NOT lowballing, as he IS fighting an Exemplar - but 8th Day Juggy only 'narrowly' won against a character who is also using physical attacks:

So, again, I don't think it's a low showing at all. But to say he is 100% immune to physical attacks, when he only narrowly won against someone who just does physical attacks, seems iffy.

riv6672 Senior Member

I've got to ask, has Validus ever beaten someone down to a sentient skeleton feuled by hate?
Because if that showing is 8th Day (not sure so i asked) or below, then this becomes a war of attrition, which Juggernaut might win.

Mindship Snap out of it.

At the very least, I would think Juggs would have to be able to stalemate a precrisis Kryptonian to have any chance against Val.

golem370 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
NOT lowballing, as he IS fighting an Exemplar - but 8th Day Juggy only 'narrowly' won against a character who is also using physical attacks:
So, again, I don't think it's a low showing at all. But to say he is 100% immune to physical attacks, when he only narrowly won against someone who just does physical attacks, seems iffy.

Well the exemplers were magical powered characters too though I also or meant immune physical attacks.

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Originally posted by golem370
Well the exemplers were magical powered characters too though I also or meant immune physical attacks.

She was hitting him with her staff - it was hardly Mjolnir. And the dialogue made ZERO reference to her magic hurting him - she was hitting his pressure points, which hurt him, and made reference to his skin etc. It was all physical.

riv6672 Senior Member

I cant see Validus going for pressure point attacks.

Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She was hitting him with her staff - it was hardly Mjolnir. And the dialogue made ZERO reference to her magic hurting him - she was hitting his pressure points, which hurt him, and made reference to his skin etc. It was all physical.

To Play Carvers Advocate:

But you see the magic coming out of her Staff, do you see the yellow energy every time she strikes Juggernaut! That's a hell of a magic mace, since it can hurt even the invulnerable Juggernaut, it might be well above Mjolnir, hell judging from the scan it is above Mjolnir!

Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

Originally posted by Horrificus
well, this might b tough for him to replicate...

That is not 8th day Juggernaut, that is Trion Juggernaut

Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Val wins. Easily.
nuts

👆 It doesn't take a nasa scientist to figure who has the advantage in this match, IMO

But like Pr says: "to each his own"

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by riv6672
I cant see Validus going for pressure point attacks.

Not my point.

My point was that he is still susceptible to physical attacks. Blunt force physical trauma, whilst directed, and targeted, still affects him.

This was a counterpoint to golem, who said that going off his powerset, he would be tanking all blunt force attacks.

I never turned Validus into Shang Chi. Merely said that going off 'potential' and 'powerset' is wrong, when their 'powerlevel' shows otherwise.

Think Sodom Yat with a GL ring. AND the Ion power. On potential, and powerset (an amped GL Daxamite), quite different from the actual showings he had.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
To Play Carvers Advocate:
But you see the magic coming out of her Staff, do you see the yellow energy every time she strikes Juggernaut! That's a hell of a magic mace, since it can hurt even the invulnerable Juggernaut, it might be well above Mjolnir, hell judging from the scan it is above Mjolnir!

You now join Galan on ignore 👆

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
To Play Carvers Advocate:
But you see the magic coming out of her Staff, do you see the yellow energy every time she strikes Juggernaut! That's a hell of a magic mace, since it can hurt even the invulnerable Juggernaut, it might be well above Mjolnir, hell judging from the scan it is above Mjolnir!

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe

I guess this is a pressure point attack then, as the point of the scene is Superboy is under a lot of pressure.

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was it the full totality of Cyttorak? Or a (high) portion?

i think it was all of his power. As a matter of fact, even though Cain opposed Cyttorak and fought the control he had over Cain, Cyttorak did nothing to limit or take back any of his power.

riv6672 Senior Member

Not my point.
My point was that he is still susceptible to physical attacks. Blunt force physical trauma, whilst directed, and targeted, still affects him.

Got it.
Mine is, PPAs are a completely different animal from a ground and pound attack.
This was argued in a Batman vs Luke Cage thread here, where Cage, who can tank, or at least bounce back from, high level superhuman strength attacks, was in danger according to some, of falling to PPAs from whats basically a normal man.
Validus wont be fighting with the degree of skill necessary to exploit that type of comic book logic loophole.

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That is not 8th day Juggernaut, that is Trion Juggernaut

nope.
That was actually regular Juggernaut, "a night in Spite", april 1997.

The trion and eighth day stories came in '99.

Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

Originally posted by Horrificus
nope.
That was actually regular Juggernaut, "a night in Spite", april 1997.
The trion and eighth day stories came in '99.

I think you are correct, my bad 👆

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I think you are correct, my bad 👆

no prob.
I just happen to be such a dork, that i spent lots of time gettin the info.

Raisen Senior Member

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Val wins. Easily.
nuts

You must admit this is really over the top and cheesy

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by Raisen
You must admit this is really over the top and cheesy

the only way that feat can be more idiotic, is if he was dragging a line of giant stuffed animals through space.

I actually feel bad for Superboy and Validus fans, for being forced to view and circulate this image over and over.

I'm surprised the artist didn't add an airplane flying alongside him.