Originally posted by Bardock42
Ok, but really we can just help everyone so that the cards are not stacked as much against them. Like you said, some people have it lucky, they start out having it made. The Republicans want to keep it that way. The Democrats want to make it so that people have similar chances in life. I know the second one seems more moral to me.
SOME form of social welfare DOES need to be in placed; but it is HUGELY abused and the democrats won't say shiiiit because all they do is pander. I lived in a community where people bragged about their free money. where the mindset is "**** america and let those idiots keep giving me those checks".
dude. this system is being used by a MAJORITY of people.
there is an answer. and the republicans don't want to do away with welfare bro. they want more accountablity. name one democrat that wants more accountability. just one dude.
I'm not a closet capitalist, I never denied that I believe in capitalism. And I actually have avery long track record to argue viciously for capitalism on this very site. Since then I have come to favour more social programs, but that doesn't change anything about my appreciation of capitalism.
And I have never damned any American for being capitalist either, that's just a baseless accusation.
Only idiots on the left from other countries think conservatives dont want to help the unfortunate.
Could not be further from the truth, we have a calling to help them.
The difference is the liberals use it for a permanent voting base. The conservatives want to lift people out of poverty so that the people who get lifted out can help others.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm not a closet capitalist, I never denied that I believe in capitalism. And I actually have avery long track record to argue viciously for capitalism on this very site. Since then I have come to favour more social programs, but that doesn't change anything about my appreciation of capitalism.And I have never damned any American for being capitalist either, that's just a baseless accusation.
Bullshit, you rag on us all the time for it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm not a closet capitalist, I never denied that I believe in capitalism. And I actually have avery long track record to argue viciously for capitalism on this very site. Since then I have come to favour more social programs, but that doesn't change anything about my appreciation of capitalism.And I have never damned any American for being capitalist either, that's just a baseless accusation.
have you ever seen the bad child who gets coddled? a guilty parent just puts all their effort into the bad seed and neglects the other children. and as we know, this reinforces the bad child's behavior. well, they grow up with stunted development. they become criminals. they engage in anti-social activities.
i've witnessed this with my brother. i got all the tough love. and guess what? my 37 year old has two strikes. has a brain condition caused by drugs. and still lives at home.
i was gone by the time i was 19. i became a productive part of society. my story is every where in every country. IF YOU KEEP REINFORCING BAD BEHAVIOR YOU WILL GET A WORSE PERSON AS AN OUTCOME.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Only idiots on the left from other countries think conservatives dont want to help the unfortunate.Could not be further from the truth, we have a calling to help them.
The difference is the liberals use it for a permeant voting base. The conservatives want to lift people out of poverty so that the people who get lifted out can help others.
EXACTLY. EXACTLY
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Obama getting elected the second time, sure, but then when the house and senate change party majority and why did it happen?Let me guess your excuse: low voter democratic turn over😂
Also explain the large conservative movement, its called Obama.
Democratic turnout was low in the mid-term elections. That is a fact.
If the conservative movement is so large, and the mid-term election results are not due to low Democratic turn-out, then how did Obama win re-election?
Why did these conservatives not show-up in the general election and give us President Romney?
Why do they only seem to win elections when fewer people participate?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Democratic turnout was low in the mid-term elections. That is a fact.If the conservative movement is so large, and the mid-term election results are not due to low Democratic turn-out, then how did Obama win re-election?
Why did these conservatives not show-up in the general election and give us President Romney?
Why do they only seem to win elections when fewer people participate?
I said 6 years into his presidency, dummy.
People were afraid of him Mormonism
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Democratic turnout was low in the mid-term elections. That is a fact.If the conservative movement is so large, and the mid-term election results are not due to low Democratic turn-out, then how did Obama win re-election?
Why did these conservatives not show-up in the general election and give us President Romney?
Why do they only seem to win elections when fewer people participate?
what republican values do you like
Long live JFK and his values, we sure could use them now.
The liberals here like Q99 and Bardock trash him though, wait till you see. They will come on here and trash his record and everything about him. And if they don't they are just hiding it cause I just called them out on it. I have talked about JFK in length before and I got hassled by everyone about.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Long live JFK and his values, we sure could use them now.The liberals here like Q99 and Bardock trash him though, wait till you see. They will come on here and trash his record and everything about him.
he actually cared and that is why they wouldn't let him live.