Originally posted by abhilegend
Because you essentially begged judges to let you win. You knew you can't win on your own just like you do now.But don't worry, you've got your cheerleaders to cheer you up.
Second, even begging the judges wouldn't equate to running(which is what you claim I did). Refusing to engage in a BZ once it's started however DEFINATELY equates to running lol
Originally posted by darthgoober
First of all, you need to look up the definition of "beg" cause I never did that.Second, even begging the judges wouldn't equate to running(which is what you claim I did). Refusing to engage in a BZ once it's started however DEFINATELY equates to running lol
I refuse to debate with beggars. That's a personal rule.
And then you ran away when I actually asked you to compete as per rules. But hey, you were always a revisionist about past things so I don't blame you for thinking you were on some kind of moral high ground.
Even now all you do is run away from me in every single thread.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course you did. You begged like a professional beggar even.I refuse to debate with beggars. That's a personal rule.
And then you ran away when I actually asked you to compete as per rules. But hey, you were always a revisionist about past things so I don't blame you for thinking you were on some kind of moral high ground.
Even now all you do is run away from me in every single thread.
Originally posted by darthgoober
You do realize that you're not actually fooling ANYONE right? I mean lot's of people actually saw the whole thing and quite a few more have seen it just by PMing me to show them the screenshots. As for "the rules"... multiple judges told you that my post didn't violate the rules when they were trying to get you to stop complaining and start posting.
i want to see the post darthgoober!
Originally posted by darthgoober
You do realize that you're not actually fooling ANYONE right? I mean lot's of people actually saw the whole thing and quite a few more have seen it just by PMing me to show them the screenshots. As for "the rules"... multiple judges told you that my post didn't violate the rules when they were trying to get you to stop complaining and start posting.
I don't care how many people saw it and how many cheerleaders you have got. What I said is what happened. You got a problem with that? Cry to quan and carver, they will help you with the cheerleading.
Nothing will change that and no matter how many times you or your cheerleaders try to say how I didn't want to post, deep down you will know that you were never good enough to beat me on your own.
Live with that. You basically proved that I was better than you without me doing anything.
Originally posted by ghostman
i want to see the post darthgoober!
Ok now I know what everyone thinking "Why on Earth would darth push for a fight against the biggest hero in comics where his own guy is handicapped against the best ways to win right at the outset"... right? Well there are two reasons... 1=I'm just that damn good... and 2= so is Surfer. There are a LOT of characters who can match(and even exceed) him in one, two, or possibly even 3 categories... but there are virtually none in the herald tier who can match him across the board. To borrow a metaphor from way back when... Hulk is a canion a mile deep and 100 feet wide, Supes is a canion a mile deep and 500 hundred feet wide, but Surfer is a canion a mile deep and and a mile wide... and that's just too much for practically anyone else in his weight class unless he tries to fight THEIR way. Another good metaphor for a fight between the two would be that it's like a game of rock/paper/scissors... only Supes is only able to throw rock while Surfer can throw all 3. Yes Supes has can definately win IF Surfer is stupid enough to throw scissors, but in a forum fight he has absolutely no reason(and certainly no obligation) to do so. Surfer beats Supes in a forum fight for basically the same reason that Supes beats Hulk in a forum fight.I suspect that most of you are expecting me to come in and scan bomb the Hell out of the place like I would have in the old days but you know what... I'm not gonna. That's not to say that I plan on making a bunch of baseless claims unsupported by evidence, but we're talking about 2 extremely well known characters in fight that's been argued ad nausim so making you judges click on hundreds of links that you'e seen at least a dozen times each will be pointless and end with all of you getting so tired of clicking that something important is likely to get glossed over and missed. It's the very thing that killed real debating on this forum long ago. Plus we've got a pretty short time limit on this thing and if we gotta go hunting for a truckload of scans it's going to take away a lot from the actual debating. No instead of a scan blitz that you don't need to see the thing I'll primariy be relying on is quite simply... your common sense and logic. Yes simply put, the seat of the pants wisdom of intelligent, well reasoned debaters who are already familiar with the forum rules and the capabilities of the characters being discussed. I'll go ahead and use scans to prove that Surfer has more than enough power to hurt Supes, then I'll demonstrate just how many more offensive options Surfer has than Supes, and then I'll prove that he can defend far better against Supes's best avenues for victory than vice versa, but in the end I'll be relying on you guy's ability to finish the equation 1+1+1=X.
Now abhi... he's going to try to pull off a little magic act. He's gonna try a little misdirection... he's gonna throw in some double standards... add a dash of lowballing... and hope to amaze you with 1,000+ plus scans that come strait from the largest respect thread on the internet(fitting for the most popular character in the history of fiction) while ommiting all context... but in the end when you wipe the sleep out of your eyes and thank God that he's finally finished, nothing he will have said will be able to change the fact that all Supes can throw is rock, and the only reason for Surfer to throw scissors is because abhi desperately wants him too."
Listen how he is practically begging for judges to ignore everything I say because well, he can't win on his own and his character is simply not good enough to win on his own. He must appeal to judges and their history together to win the fight.
I still get a chuckle out of that.
Also back on topic, what is omitted from Surfer "black hole" creating blast is that Ravenous and the seekers survived the same blast and came out of the same black hole.
That's why space cheese is irrelevant. If Surfer had even koed Ravenous with that blast, I could find it impressive. As it is, its another smokescreen with little value in terms of relative power levels.
Originally posted by abhilegendI didnt read any begging, just a first post uppercut. The common sense part of his argument must of sent you reeling. Great opening post 👆
Here it is.Listen how he is practically begging for judges to ignore everything I say because well, he can't win on his own and his character is simply not good enough to win on his own. He must appeal to judges and their history together to win the fight.
I still get a chuckle out of that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it is.Listen how he is practically begging for judges to ignore everything I say because well, he can't win on his own and his character is simply not good enough to win on his own. He must appeal to judges and their history together to win the fight.
I still get a chuckle out of that.
Would it have worked?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who wants to fool anyone? You are the person who started it with begging for victory from the judges. If you think that was some master stratagem which fooled me and had me guessing, its entirely in your own mind.I don't care how many people saw it and how many cheerleaders you have got. What I said is what happened. You got a problem with that? Cry to quan and carver, they will help you with the cheerleading.
Nothing will change that and no matter how many times you or your cheerleaders try to say how I didn't want to post, deep down you will know that you were never good enough to beat me on your own.
Live with that. You basically proved that I was better than you without me doing anything.
You got raped.
Originally posted by emu
I didnt read any begging, just a first post uppercut. The common sense part of his argument must of sent you reeling. Great opening post 👆
And who exactly are you anyway?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would it have worked?
That's all which matters.
Originally posted by abhilegendAbhi the posts don't lie. You wigged out over his first post. An unconventional post completely unraveled you. You threw one of the worst meltdowns I've ever seen and forfeited the match.
Because you essentially begged judges to let you win. You knew you can't win on your own just like you do now.But don't worry, you've got your cheerleaders to cheer you up.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Exactly. Actions matter and Abhi is justifying his infantile and cowardly actions. Judges don't side with people or shouldn't because someone asked them too. Abhi is basically attacking those judges by even suggesting this might have worked. Goober and his one post made infamous by abhi's meltdown. Love that goober saved it.
Then you should have gone for it, and trusted in the judges (which you were ok with).
