Captain America/Winter Soldier vs. Wolverine/Deadpool

Originally posted by Robtard
Which opponents did DP fight that showed he's more technically skilled than CA?

DP has a degree of super-strength, but Cap's feats outclass him by a considerable margin, definitely more than a "meh" amount

DP has a great healing factor, but his bones can be broken and his skin can be pierced by less force than Cap can produce. Cap could rather easily break DP's bones; if not severe limbs with the edge of his shield, since we've seen it cut easily through steel.

Almost every fight he was in showed his technically superiority to cap. He was literally clowning around the whole time, while pulling off feats and moves I never saw Cap come close to replicating. Let's break it down:

Strength - Cap
Agility - Deadpool
Reactions - Deadpool
Healing factor - Deadpool
Speed -close but DP
Stamina - Stalemate
Skill - DP

I honestly can't think of anything Cap is better at besides Strength... and that won't win him the day here.

DP fought mostly chumps though. Ajax was DP's most skilled/powerful opponent and WS would destroy Ajax in a fight, who Cap defeated.

Skill, I disagree as noted. Cap seems the superior technical fighter so far

Reactions, I'd say they're about equal with possibly an edge to DP (do I not remember something about DP here?). Cap has been quick enough to raise his shield in time to block faster moving objects, Chitauri blast (he did miss one though), bullets and the grenade launcher, iirc

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Almost every fight he was in showed his technically superiority to cap. He was literally clowning around the whole time, while pulling off feats and moves I never saw Cap come close to replicating. Let's break it down:

Strength - Cap
Agility - Deadpool
Reactions - Deadpool
Healing factor - Deadpool
Speed -close but DP
Stamina - Stalemate
Skill - DP

I honestly can't think of anything Cap is better at besides Strength... and that won't win him the day here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't need to kill him to beat him. Cap has gone rounds with Ultron.

Wolverine went toe to toe with Silver Samurai who was made of adamantium and about 8 feet tall and had swords. He also went toe to toe with Yuriko also withstood dispersion from Phoenix.

Originally posted by golem370
Wolverine went toe to toe with Silver Samurai who was made of adamantium and about 8 feet tall and had swords. He also went toe to toe with Yuriko also withstood dispersion from Phoenix.

You are guessing about SS against Ultron and SS could cut him to pieces heated adamantium swords.

Originally posted by golem370
You are guessing about SS against Ultron and SS could cut him to pieces heated adamantium swords.

Listen to what you are saying Cap did good against Ultron who did well against heavy hitters sounds like pis to me. SS cut Wolverines claws you really don't thin it could do the same to that Ultron?

Originally posted by golem370
Listen to what you are saying Cap did good against Ultron who did well against heavy hitters sounds like pis to me. SS cut Wolverines claws you really don't thin it could do the same to that Ultron?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dp went down to the guy who tortured him and who wasn't really that impressive. Dp was a chump who needed aid against some dipshit who took his girlfriend hostage. Dp was scared to even confront his own gf. 😂

Him not trying or caring is totally irrelevant to this thread. As I said, he did a lot of stuff for comedic purposes, or simply just let himself be hit by things knowing full well he'll simply regenerate.

In the categories I listed, please list who's superior

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Him not trying or caring is totally irrelevant to this thread. As I said, he did a lot of stuff for comedic purposes, or simply just let himself be hit by things knowing full well he'll simply regenerate.

In the categories I listed, please list who's superior

To those who are saying about DP having superior reaction speed and all, remember that DP gets hit quite a lot in the movies. Only survives due to his HP. Cap doesn't get hit quite as often.

That's the thing though. We have to look at in ALL in perspective. With the moves he pulled off, and the reactions and agility shown in certain sequences, should make it clear that if he didn't want to be hit most of the time he wouldn't be. It seemed pretty apparent to me that he let himself be hit most times, simply because he knew he could take it. When you see somebody pull off some of the sequences he did... using speed and agility, it should be clear to anyone that he could've dodged way more than he did, but simply didn't want to bother.

Not sure that he wanted to get hit or didn't care, but DP's agility shouldn't be in question. The scene where he jumps out of the car straight up, flips sideways and caps some goons should be enough to illustrate his super-human agility.

edit: Actually there was at least one scene where he didn't give two shits about being shot. When he's wearing white and casually walks towards the goon who's shooting him

Originally posted by FrothByte
To those who are saying about DP having superior reaction speed and all, remember that DP gets hit quite a lot in the movies. Only survives due to his HP. Cap doesn't get hit quite as often.

Yeah but DP was taking on multiple machine gun fire, and doesn't have a shield for protection.

He also caught one of Ajax's thrown axes, that was a decent showing of reaction time/speed

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure that he wanted to get hit or didn't care, but DP's agility shouldn't be in question. The scene where he jumps out of the car straight up, flips sideways and caps some goons should be enough to illustrate his super-human agility.

edit; Actually there was at least one scene where he didn't give two shits about being shot. When he's wearing white and casually walks towards the goon who's shooting him

Exactly bud, and you hit the nail on the head with what I was also saying. He clearly had super human agility and reactions. He displayed them. So either he wanted to get hit or didn't care if he did... In either case, what we should rule out is... he was actively trying to dodge all the attacks he was hit by... yet was still hit by them. That is what is seemingly being peddled around here... and I couldn't disagree more.

I'd also argue that Cap not getting hit as much has a lot to do with Cap having a mobile protective barrier (ie shield)

But in a 1v1, I'd still pick Cap winning or taking the lion's share of matches.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'd also argue that Cap not getting hit as much has a lot to do with Cap having a mobile protective barrier (ie shield)

But in a 1v1, I'd still pick Cap winning or taking the lion's share of matches.

TIL: A normal human is the same as a super-powered being

TIL: Punches and kicks are the same as bullets