Black Lives Matter thread

So if the video is published on a certain date, that means I have to dig further to see when it was published beyond the published date?? What does that even mean???

BLM is about Race past and present, saying the title of this video does not pertain to BLM is a false hood, regardless of the published date which was last week. BLM is not about dates, it an ideology that has been building for years. This video is just as relevant as whenever it was actually filmed.

Yes, the onus is upon you to check your source, else you will face appropriate criticism for being misleading.

Likewise, I think you will find the idea that there could be a BLM activist before BLM existed not one that gets you much respect.

The source was youtube, and the published date is the published date. It does not matter when it was filmed..do you even know when it was filmed and if you did, why does that matter?

Youtube is where it is hosted, not where it was filmed. It's clearly edited to try and propagandise its message.

If you look up the debate in question you'll see it was from a few years back.

So the date is wrong on that video. But does that change the attitude of these people? I do not think so.

That's a posting date, not a filming date. And no, the date does not effect that, but as this is a BLM thread and the debate had nothing to do with BLM, it raises the idea of how relevant it is.

And then context shows that the views expressed there are not all they seem.

Listen to Hushgarak

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Listen to Hushgarak

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Originally posted by Lestov16
You're cherry picking. Of course some extremist sects of Islam are murderous, but that's the not the point jaden is making. The point jaden is making is that Trump is implying that it is the majority if not all Islamic sects are murderous, when really it is a small percentage.

Interesting, so the amount of deaths surrounding blacks and police officers is a small amount as well considering all the police in this country.

So what you have been implying is the majority if not all police are murderous, when really it is a small percentage.

I really can't get over the hypocrisy of this.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but black lives matter because of racist police.

Both are blown out of proportion. You can't just pick your stances because of hype.

Politics has become a stupid trend and nothing more.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
I really can't get over the hypocrisy of this.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but black lives matter because of racist police.

Both are blown out of proportion. You can't just pick your stances because of hype.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
I really can't get over the hypocrisy of this.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but black lives matter because of racist police.

Both are blown out of proportion. You can't just pick your stances because of hype.

Politics has become a stupid trend and nothing more.

I can give you the go to answer to explain this: cops are focused on more because it is their job to protect us. Which actually has some merit to an extent. However what is unfair is the instant assumption a cop is racist and in the wrong. We've seen riots over things where it turned out the official ruling was the cop did nothing wrong. People don't want to wait to see what happened because in their mind every cop must be racist.

In a sense they are saying they can generalize cops, but the cops can't generalize them. Which of course is a big "no" all around.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
I really can't get over the hypocrisy of this.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but black lives matter because of racist police.

Both are blown out of proportion. You can't just pick your stances because of hype.

Politics has become a stupid trend and nothing more.

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Hence me posting

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Interesting, so the amount of deaths surrounding blacks and police officers is a small amount as well considering all the police in this country.

So what you have been implying is the majority if not all police are murderous, when really it is a small percentage.

Of coarse the response was ignored and the person I responded to coward away from it.

Originally posted by Surtur
I can give you the go to answer to explain this: cops are focused on more because it is their job to protect us. Which actually has some merit to an extent. However what is unfair is the instant assumption a cop is racist and in the wrong. We've seen riots over things where it turned out the official ruling was the cop did nothing wrong. People don't want to wait to see what happened because in their mind every cop must be racist.

In a sense they are saying they can generalize cops, but the cops can't generalize them. Which of course is a big "no" all around.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
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Hence me posting

Of coarse the response was ignored and the person I responded to coward away from it.

I agree that rioters and looters should not be tolerated, and I don't think they are. Not all protesters are rioters though, and those that protest peacefully should not be lumped in with rioters.

That is the same for Police Officers and Muslims by the way. We should not lump in the good ones with the bad, but we should recognise the bad and make sure they are stopped and brought to justice.

I agree. I don't believe peaceful protesters should be viewed as rioters; I don't believe rioters should be viewed as peaceful protesters.

Systematic racism is a real problem, but it's not THE problem. Rioters should be persecuted and singled out and should be banished from their community. No exceptions. Show everyone that these individuals made the mistake and make sure people know who they're dealing with. It's not a race issue, and shouldn't be.

Edit: semicolon where appropriate.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jamar-clark-shooting-no-charges-against-2-minneapolis-cops-involved-n547941

Do people agree or disagree with these cops not getting charged?

I mean the final paragraph in that article..what the prosecutor says about "tactically retreating" I had to just read that twice to make sure he actually said that and..wow he said that.

There's several issues.

1. If 2 officers can't restrain an unarmed man without having to shoot and kill him then they clearly need to be trained better

2. Black protesters need to realise that not all black people shot dead by police are saints and many don't deserve the sympathy of their communities. That said they also, in the main, don't deserve to be shot and killed in the street by police unless they are an immediate danger to the lives of others themselves.

Yep it is getting extreme at both ends. I mean..I dunno, I just see them posting a picture of the criminal holding flowers and I'm like..what is the media trying to do here?