Originally posted by Surtur
The funny thing is the supposedly "educated" people demanding the police be abolished don't seem to be educated enough to realize it will be the poor neighborhoods hit hardest by that.Leftists living in their gated communities won't be as vulnerable.
NO NO NO NO it's all Trump's fault! Dipshits in their own cities and states refuse to protect their citizens from riots and then the democrat mouth pieces blame Trump for their own failures.......lol it's like they are all just giving each other participation awards through media outlets.
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet but some real sketchy details have come up in regards to Breanna Taylor's death.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/01/breonna-taylor-plea-deal-louisville/
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet but some real sketchy details have come up in regards to Breanna Taylor's death.https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/01/breonna-taylor-plea-deal-louisville/
Right. Snowdragon "red-pilled" me on this. Breonna Taylor wasn't innocent in this scenario. She was either a money launderer, a drug mule, a look-out (definitely this), or all of the above. She was involved with the illicit drug gang that was being monitored. Her ex-BF got her killed by involving her and setting his address to her apartment.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. Snowdragon "red-pilled" me on this. Breonna Taylor wasn't innocent in this scenario. She was either a money launderer, a drug mule, a look-out (definitely this), or all of the above. She was involved with the illicit drug gang that was being monitored. Her ex-BF got her killed by involving her and setting his address to her apartment.
Slight disagreement here but if there was any connection at all its un-likey Breanna would have the resources for money laundering and the current boyfriend being a legal gun owner would make the prospect of muling off: a convicted felon wouldn't be able to have a firearm legally in their possession which would just seems weird to jeopardize that to traffic stuff. So look-out, if anything, would probably be the most plausible IMO.
Course further details release could make this all moot.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Slight disagreement here but if there was any connection at all its un-likey Breanna would have the resources for money laundering and the current boyfriend being a legal gun owner would make the prospect of muling off: a convicted felon wouldn't be able to have a firearm legally in their possession which would just seems weird to jeopardize that to traffic stuff. So look-out, if anything, would probably be the most plausible IMO.Course further details release could make this all moot.
What I said wasn't baseless at all and I would not make claims without facts. It is 100% confirmed that she was a lookout, at one point as she was caught on camera doing so. She moved money for them, as well (never directly proven but due to the driving around she did or riding around she did, she was complicit at worst). How deep she was involved with the money or whether or not she actually moved drugs is not directly proven but her involvement strongly hints that she may have actually transported the drugs at one point.
You can check out the case details, here:
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1
Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. Snowdragon "red-pilled" me on this. Breonna Taylor wasn't innocent in this scenario. She was either a money launderer, a drug mule, a look-out (definitely this), or all of the above. She was involved with the illicit drug gang that was being monitored. Her ex-BF got her killed by involving her and setting his address to her apartment.
Bingo, it is getting tiring see them prop up criminals.
Originally posted by Silent Master
All the Democrat Governors should give the BLM terrorists exactly what they want and abolish all police in their states
Or the police can do this and let them fend for themselves.
https://nypost.com/2020/07/29/nevada-sheriff-tells-library-that-supports-blm-not-to-call-911/
Chicago violence: 51 shot, 10 fatally in Labor Day weekend shootings
One of the dead was an 8 yr. old girl.
#BLM
Originally posted by Surtur
Chicago violence: 51 shot, 10 fatally in Labor Day weekend shootingsOne of the dead was an 8 yr. old girl.
#BLM
How terrible.
Why doesn't All Lives Matter legitimately organize and start helping people?
Originally posted by BackFire
Why is Chicago seemingly so much more violent than other big cities in the country? Or is that untrue?
The facts on this reason seem very racist and racists often use them as talking points. But...
The homicide rates (per capita homicides) varies directly with the percentage of the black population in the US.
Places like Baltimore and Chicago have much larger percentages of black population compared to other cities.
Also, you may be forgetting that Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US, by population. So not only does the black population affect the crime rates, the large number of black people in Chicago also creates a large raw homicide rate.
If more Democrats, BLM, and Antifa people would focus on the black crime issues in our US cities, we'd save thousands of lives each year: mostly black lives. But it's considered racist to even talk about this problem. But the real racism is NOT acknowledging this problem and trying to directly solve the problem.
Originally posted by BackFire
Are there more black peoples in Chicago than in a place like Los Angeles?
Yes.
32% black in Chicago
11% black in LA
LA has 44% Latino/Hispanic.
Homicide Rate per 100K - LA: 7.3
Homicide Rate per 100K - Chicago: 23.8
And this is the part that makes people upset (from both sides of the argument):
32%/11% = 2.9
23.8/7.3 = 3.3
Or about 3 times for both cities. It just so happens that the black population in Chicago is 3 times the ratio in Chicago. It's not a coincidence. It's always a the direct proportionality variance (in maths, this is known as a direct variance relationship). Just guesstimating off the top of my head, the R squared value for this is likely .8 to .9 which means the correlation is very strong.
I could do the 10 or 20 largest cities in the US and truly calculate the R squared value. But I'm busy with data analytics here at work, at the moment.
Edit - Looks like there is a soft ceiling limit on black population and homicides. Meaning, the violent crime rate per black percentage of the population starts to taper off the higher the concentration of black people in the city. This is the kind of stuff you look for in the data to find potential solutions. I could be seeing a meaningless anomaly in the data but a result like this could suggest "super saturation of black population in one city has an unexplained deterrent effect on homicide rates per capita." But this type of reasoning could lead people down the path of segregation, again. So I digress.
Originally posted by dadudemonI think the racist tie in to this is that a lot of times these arguments are used as a way to downplay other issues.
The facts on this reason seem very racist and racists often use them as talking points. But...The homicide rates (per capita homicides) varies directly with the percentage of the black population in the US.
Places like Baltimore and Chicago have much larger percentages of black population compared to other cities.
Also, you may be forgetting that Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US, by population. So not only does the black population affect the crime rates, the large number of black people in Chicago also creates a large raw homicide rate.
If more Democrats, BLM, and Antifa people would focus on the black crime issues in our US cities, we'd save thousands of lives each year: mostly black lives. But it's considered racist to even talk about this problem. But the real racism is NOT acknowledging this problem and trying to directly solve the problem.
So most people just try to use it as a distraction argument. When you really push them though and start asking them questions like why are black communities seeing higher crime rates you get into real racists responses.
Such as black culture being a prime reason for increased crime rates in these communities. Which is very interesting to me how people can't see how that comes off as racist.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes.32% black in Chicago
11% black in LALA has 44% Latino/Hispanic.
Homicide Rate per 100K - LA: 7.3
Homicide Rate per 100K - Chicago: 23.8
And this is the part that makes people upset (from both sides of the argument):
32%/11% = 2.9
23.8/7.3 = 3.3
Or about 3 times for both cities. It just so happens that the black population in Chicago is 3 times the ratio in Chicago. It's not a coincidence. It's always a the direct proportionality variance (in maths, this is known as a direct variance relationship). Just guesstimating off the top of my head, the R squared value for this is likely .8 to .9 which means the correlation is very strong.
I could do the 10 or 20 largest cities in the US and truly calculate the R squared value. But I'm busy with data analytics here at work, at the moment.
Edit - Looks like there is a soft ceiling limit on black population and homicides. Meaning, the violent crime rate per black percentage of the population starts to taper off the higher the concentration of black people in the city. This is the kind of stuff you look for in the data to find potential solutions. I could be seeing a meaningless anomaly in the data but a result like this could suggest "super saturation of black population in one city has an unexplained deterrent effect on homicide rates per capita." But this type of reasoning could lead people down the path of segregation, again. So I digress.
What do you think is the solution to a problem like this?
Originally posted by Newjak
Such as black culture being a prime reason for increased crime rates in these communities. Which is very interesting to me how people can't see how that comes off as racist.
We differ, here, and we differ specifically because the facts do not support your position and I also believe that holding your position is inadvertently the racist one. I'll explain why after the facts:
It is a nurture problem (which can include culture). It's not specifically an education or poverty problem. Hispanic people in the US are more impoverished and less educated than our black population. Yet, proportionally to poverty, the black population commits 5 times the homicides per capita.
So why is disregarding black culture an actual racist position? Because ignoring real black issues that would save actual black lives steps over the line into actual racism; when you consciously start ignoring the actual issues that leads to 7000+ murdered black people each year, you've crossed the into racism. The black population is currently experiencing similar issues that the Italian American population experienced during the 1910s-1940s. The infighting with plenty of murder and violence killed far too many young Italian American men.
Here's one thing I have not done yet, with the data: controlled for single parent homes vs. father-mother homes. I have a guess that part of the reason US Hispanic peoples experience the 5 times less homicide rate, when controlling for poverty (where people try to incorrectly place the blame*), I bet you marriage rates are much higher among the Hispanic peoples. We do know there is a strong correlation between single parent homes and 3 other factors (and these 3 factors are not mutually exclusive): crime, education, and mental health.
*I was also one of the people who was incorrectly spreading the "education and poverty" talking point about the black violence issue. I was wrong. It wasn't until I analyzed the data, myself, and controlled for poverty that I saw that the facts did not fit my position. So, I had no choice but to adjust my position.