Black Lives Matter thread

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CNN’s Don Lemon Battles With Terry Crews Over Black Lives Matter’s Agenda

He does what a lot of people do when confronted with the black on black murder and tries to say BLM is not about what is happening in communities, but about police brutality.

Wrong, just wrong. It's never been just solely about police brutality. Terry Crews points this out and all Lemon can do is repeat the same incorrect talking points.

But at least Lemon is acknowledging that they cherry pick which black lives they care about.

Terry Crews is right on. All black lives matter, no matter the circumstances, and all these circumstances need to be addressed.

Originally posted by Mindship
Terry Crews is right on. All black lives matter, no matter the circumstances, and all these circumstances need to be addressed.

Right. You'd think that if black lives really did matter, we'd address that thousands dying each year to violence instead of the 9 and 10 unarmed lives lost to police.

And the destruction of the black nuclear family by the Democratic Party. That's the biggest harm to black lives.

The most dangerous place for a black person is inside his or her mother's womb. Margaret Sanger would be proud.

The destruction of the nuclear family is damaging to society period imo.

And slavery as a whole was a terrible stain on the soul of America because it was so fundamental to its society. And as shitty as life was, from the 1700s to the late 1800's, people of color had a really really rough hand dealt. Videos like this haunt me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfcc21c6Uo

Racism is very deeply ingrained in many places and institutions. It's really not shocking to me that many younger people are seeking to just completely overturn the country's institutions. Objectively, you cannot look at the history of the U.S., and come to the conclusion it's not filled with absolute horror stories. From my perspective, the fact that people of color have not turned around and started a race war with white people based on America's history as a symptom as to how damaging slavery was. If slavery wasn't so thorough in the Americas, by removing a shared culture from the slaves, black people would have been a much more cohesive force, that would have separated from the rest of the country imo. And they would have promptly tried to take down the U.S., and tbh, who can blame them? Cultures have done WAY worse for much less slights.

At the same time, history as a whole is a horror story, and a lot of countries did a lot of terrible things, and America is a melting pot of different cultures. A great experiment. I think that's the context most people lack. America also has gotten a lot of things right, and has done so much so quickly, it's unthinkable. At the current pace, if things tilt in the right direction, the West could be nearly utopian in a few centuries or less.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The destruction of the nuclear family is damaging to society period imo.

And slavery as a whole was a terrible stain on the soul of America because it was so fundamental to its society. And as shitty as life was, from the 1700s to the late 1800's, people of color had a really really rough hand dealt. Videos like this haunt me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfcc21c6Uo

Racism is very deeply ingrained in many places and institutions. It's really not shocking to me that many younger people are seeking to just completely overturn the country's institutions. Objectively, you cannot look at the history of the U.S., and come to the conclusion it's not filled with absolute horror stories. From my perspective, the fact that people of color have not turned around and started a race war with white people based on America's history as a symptom as to how damaging slavery was. If slavery wasn't so thorough in the Americas, by removing a shared culture from the slaves, black people would have been a much more cohesive force, that would have separated from the rest of the country imo. And they would have promptly tried to take down the U.S., and tbh, who can blame them? Cultures have done WAY worse for much less slights.

At the same time, history as a whole is a horror story, and a lot of countries did a lot of terrible things, and America is a melting pot of different cultures. A great experiment. I think that's the context most people lack. America also has gotten a lot of things right, and has done so much so quickly, it's unthinkable. At the current pace, if things tilt in the right direction, the West could be nearly utopian in a few centuries or less.

How would you feel if I told you that a black working age man made .97 for every dollar a white working age man made BEFORE the Civil Rights movement?

How would you feel if I told you that black nuclear family and marriage was higher before 1955 (just guess at what started happening in the 50s) than even white people?

It wasn't slavery that "brought the black man down." Had nothing to do with it. Black people were on target to surpass white people at the rate they were improving in multiple areas.

Just like the Irish.

Just like the Chinese.

Just like the Italians.

The Chinese, Irish, and Italians didn't have a Civil Rights movement. Black people did.

The Chinese, Irish, and Italian families were not destroyed. Black families were.

No other race made .97 to the dollar of a white man at the beginning of the 20th Century. Black men did.

DDM ur racism is killing me.

Why can't u control urself

My bad. Yeah, I guess I should fall in step with the Democrats and support the continued destruction of the black nuclear family.

Maybe learn a little something about privilege and f*cking humble yourself.

And the destruction of the black nuclear family by the Democratic Party. That's the biggest harm to black lives.

Propogating lies, the devil walks amongst us. I kid but let's just dismiss the money conversation, people only have so much time. Two men raise a kid, ok. Two women raise a kid, ok. The reason pairs matter aside from earnings is a time deficit created by the responsibilities. It only grows exponentially with more kids as well.

Realistically, I haven't seen BLM produce anything other than propaganda to support their cause which isn't black lives and in turn families. It's like watching Edward Bernays and a marriage of manufacturing consent had a baby which is a shit news/media (now I'll add activists to that.)

Originally posted by snowdragon
Propogating lies, the devil walks amongst us. I kid but let's just dismiss the money conversation, people only have so much time. Two men raise a kid, ok. Two women raise a kid, ok. The reason pairs matter aside from earnings is a time deficit created by the responsibilities. It only grows exponentially with more kids as well.

Realistically, I haven't seen BLM produce anything other than propaganda to support their cause which isn't black lives and in turn families. It's like watching Edward Bernays and a marriage of manufacturing consent had a baby which is a shit news/media (now I'll add activists to that.)

The only non-"Pro-LGBT" study I've seen on LGBT families did not show a good result for single parent homes and it showed the worst possible outcome, for children, for single lesbians.

It was criticized heavily by the LGBT community for being biased and with a religious agenda (pro-family agenda).

Still, the result did show that Father-Father homes didn't do much worse than Father-Mother homes.

...children of married opposite-sex families have a high graduation rate compared to the others; children of lesbian families have a very low graduation rate compared to the others; and the other four types [common law, gay, single mother, single father] are similar to each other and lie in between the married/lesbian extremes.

Employing regression models and series of control variables, Allen concludes that the substandard performance cannot be attributed to lower school attendance or the more modest education of gay or lesbian parents. Indeed, same-sex parents were characterized by higher levels of education, and their children were more likely to be enrolled in school than even those of married, opposite-sex couples. And yet their children are notably more likely to lag in finishing their own schooling.

The same is true of the young-adult children of common law parents, as well as single mothers and single fathers, highlighting how little—when you lean on large, high-quality samples—the data have actually changed over the past few decades. The intact, married mother-and-father household remains the gold standard for children’s progress through school. What is surprising in the Canadian data is the revelation that lesbian couples’ children fared worse, on average, than even those of single parents.

The truly unique aspect of Allen’s study, however, may be its ability to distinguish gender-specific effects of same-sex households on children. He writes:

the particular gender mix of a same-sex household has a dramatic difference in the association with child graduation. Consider the case of girls. . . . Regardless of the controls and whether or not girls are currently living in a gay or lesbian household, the odds of graduating from high school are considerably lower than any other household type. Indeed, girls living in gay households are only 15 percent as likely to graduate compared to girls from opposite sex married homes.

Prior to the NFSS, the academy had come to believe that children raised by gay or lesbian parents fared, on average, no worse, and in some cases better, than children raised by heterosexual parents. Dr. Regnerus and a group of social scientists decided to evaluate this claim empirically by studying the responses of children who were raised in a variety of family structures. The goal of the NFSS, from the beginning, was to gather the best social science possible to address the question of what family arrangements were best for children. The results of the NFSS research revealed that the “no differences” claim—the claim that children raised by parents in gay or lesbian relationships fared no worse and in some cases better than children raised by intact biological parents—was not true. On the contrary, the children of these households, on average, did worse than children raised by their biological, still-married parents.

The NFSS studied a statistically large, random sample of the general U.S. population. By using a sample that is randomly selected and statistically large, scientists can be highly confident that the sample represents the makeup and behavior of the bigger population with almost as much certainty as if they had surveyed every individual in the population. In all prior surveys of gay parenting, except one by Dr. Michael J. Rosenfeld of Stanford University, the sample size of children was either too small to make meaningful claims or the participants were not selected randomly but by other methods like “snowball” or convenience sampling. These other methods tend to select people that are more similar to each other than is the case in the larger population that they are meant to represent. They inherently lack the representative accuracy and strength of random samples.

The NFSS also surveyed participants on a broad range of outcomes spanning physical and emotional health, experience in personal relationships, and general social behavior. The one other survey that studied a statistically large, random sample (Rosenfeld’s) studied only one outcome: children’s educational achievement.

Finally, the NFSS surveyed the children of parents who had a same-sex relationship directly and as young adults (after they had reached maturity). Many previous studies surveyed only the children’s parents, and no prior study surveyed the children in their young-adult years.

My favorite part about this study is the lead researcher tried to get pro-LGBT groups involved in funding the study but on the condition that they were not allowed to interfere with the study (no corruption):

"When the NFSS was broadly outlined in late 2010, the Witherspoon Institute approached four different funding sources that were known to be committed to gay rights and also to have an interest in the welfare of children. They were asked to be partners by providing financial support to fund a study (the NFSS) with the proviso that none of the funding sources would have any influence regarding the design, implementation, or interpretation of the data. They were told the study would be conducted at a major research university and that the team of scholars involved in the design of the study would be evenly represented across ideological lines. All four declined."

Another favorite part of the study is the inability of the researchers to find stable lesbian couples with children: they simply could not find them because lesbian couples were so unstable (long term partners, with children). They had 2 left out of the initial sample of over 170. That's hilarious but also sad - lots of instability for the children which also is part of the reason the had such poor outcomes relative to their peers.

What children need:

1. Stable, 2 parent homes. Same mom and dad. Or dad and dad. Or mom and mom.

2. Healthy discipline.

That's really it. You can be largely unloving parents and your children will, on average, have better outcomes psychologically and socio-economically than children that come from single parent homes.

This is also why in the social sciences especially the science around children and development, the "Gold Standard" is the biological Mother and Father raising the child in a stable marriage their entire childhood.

Originally posted by dadudemon
How would you feel if I told you that a black working age man made .97 for every dollar a white working age man made BEFORE the Civil Rights movement?

How would you feel if I told you that black nuclear family and marriage was higher before 1955 (just guess at what started happening in the 50s) than even white people?

It wasn't slavery that "brought the black man down." Had nothing to do with it. Black people were on target to surpass white people at the rate they were improving in multiple areas.

Just like the Irish.

Just like the Chinese.

Just like the Italians.

The Chinese, Irish, and Italians didn't have a Civil Rights movement. Black people did.

The Chinese, Irish, and Italian families were not destroyed. Black families were.

No other race made .97 to the dollar of a white man at the beginning of the 20th Century. Black men did.

Brother, I’ve been preaching this same shit here since I started listening to Thomas Sowell about 2 years ago. Blacks was destroyed when Democrats created Affirmative Action and the Wellfare System. I mean, it worked because that’s exactly the Democrats and Lyndon B Johnson wanted to vegan with.

Originally posted by SquallX
Brother, I’ve been preaching this same shit here since I started listening to Thomas Sowell about 2 years ago. Blacks was destroyed when Democrats created Affirmative Action and the Wellfare System. I mean, it worked because that’s exactly the Democrats and Lyndon B Johnson wanted to vegan with.

Thankfully, many black people are noticing and, before the COVID-19 bullshit, black people were on target to greatly improve across the board.

The George Floyd and Black Lives Matter crap may have set back black progress 5-10 years, though. That's sad.

The more black people are told they are stupid, ignorant, helpless, oppressed people, the longer it will take to make the deep improvements needed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thankfully, many black people are noticing and, before the COVID-19 bullshit, black people were on target to greatly improve across the board.

The George Floyd and Black Lives Matter crap may have set back black progress 5-10 years, though. That's sad.

The more black people are told they are stupid, ignorant, helpless, oppressed people, the longer it will take to make the deep improvements needed.

if it gets Trump out that will be a quantum leap forward.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
if it gets Trump out that will be a quantum leap forward.

You’re an idiot. Trump committed no crimes as the President to the black community.

Trump and 4 years did more for the Black community than Obama did in 8 years.

Hate Trump for the proper reasons, not made up ones.

Originally posted by SquallX
You’re an idiot. Trump committed no crimes as the President to the black community.

Trump and 4 years did more for the Black community than Obama did in 8 years.

Hate Trump for the proper reasons, not made up ones.

you like Trump, I know. He likes you too. 🙁

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
if it gets Trump out that will be a quantum leap forward.

Unlikely the black vote will result in Trump losing the election because:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Meanwhile:

Rasmussen polling noted in early June that Trump’s approval rating among African Americans stood at 41 percent, far above the 8 percent of votes he received from that community in 2016.

Barack Obama, despite being the first African American president, failed to deliver criminal justice reform — a top priority for black voters — after eight years. Trump got it done in two. Trump also increased funding for Historical Black Colleges and powered an economy that, before the pandemic, drove the unemployment rate for African Americans to an historical low.

Equally important, Trump has sided with ‘law and order’ once the George Floyd protests turned into riots and statute tumbling — without giving succor to some of his more racially divisive supporters on the right. Democrats make a big and arguably racist mistake in thinking that black voters are allergic to the idea of law and order. According to Rasmussen, 67 percent of African Americans are most concerned about public safety where they live. Contrary to the spin from the Black Lives Matters leaders, African Americans know by experience that the police aren’t the cause of death and mayhem in the black community; rather, the police are the force that has kept the criminal elements at bay. It is the police who have saved thousands of black lives as murder rates across America plummeted from the 1990s onwards.

Trump’s vocal support for safety and security is resonating in the black community, especially as the crime rate in the big cities has jumped since the start of the protests. Democratic mayors and city councils have pulled back on public safety and moved to defund the police, and the criminal elements are willing and able to exploit gaps in security. This past weekend in Chicago, 63 people were shot, with sixteen killed including a one-year-old and a 10-year-old. In New York City, weekly shootings jumped 358 percent from a year earlier, with 35 victims this past weekend.

Trump has been comfortable in the 41-52 approval range for weeks, now. Unless you thought Obama did terribly in 2012 around this same time (he didn't), Trump is on track to win the election in November by a larger margin that Obama did in 2012.

If anyone thinks Biden has the popularity and pull Obama did in 2012, that person is definitely an idiot.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul07

The economy is recovering rapidly with near record setting improvements and deaths are declining in all but 4 states. Trump is setup to dominate on election day. The Dems need to come up with a strategy other than Biden or they are guaranteed a loss.

Double post

I Read npr and gallup, they
See it around last times 8% an almost 500% rise from your figure seems unlikely.

Hilariously, a Hawaiian native wore black face to his sentencing.

He was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole for stabbing 3 people in a road rage incident.

This guy said the judge and his lawyer (court appointed) were treating him like a black man with no justice (oh boy).

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mark-char-hawaii-road-rage-attacker-wears-blackface-racist-courtroom-rant/