Estacado, Kratos and Raiden vs Dante, Wolverine and Death

Originally posted by KingD19
He gets things wrong...like a lot. Because Wolverine can take out the guy who is faster, and strong enough to punt him like a football into another state. Also, Wolverine got turned into stone by Gorgon in the comics. He's just as at risk against Kratos.

He'll learn in time.

Yeah, on top of being horribly outclassed physically, Wolverine has no answer for many of Kratos' magical abilities.

Originally posted by Estacado
Darkness is half of creation itself hence the whole light/dark thing.

In a what if comic it was swallowing the Universe.

Jackie is just a crappy host he just uses darklings most of the times.

In an alternate future one of the hosts was creating mountain sized monsters ,moving stars.....etc..

Jackie could still dump Wolverine into a blackhole maybe Death too not sure about that though...

Team 1.

Game Jackie can create a black hole?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Same thing I said to StealthRanger.

Wolverince has tangled with people above Kratos, such as Thor and Hulk, and he WINS sometimes. The fact that he even has a chance against these people puts them above Kratos.

PIS and Wolverine's jobber aura are the only reasons Thor and the Hulk do not turn Wolverine into a space object every time they fight him.
Kratos isn't a jobber, and PIS is inapplicable in a forum fight. Ergo, no.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You can't cut Wolverine's head off.

Unless you have Vibranium.

You do know that's a no limit fallacy right?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He'll learn in time.

Yeah, on top of being horribly outclassed physically, Wolverine has no answer for many of Kratos' magical abilities.

Game Jackie can create a black hole?

PIS and Wolverine's jobber aura are the only reasons Thor and the Hulk do not turn Wolverine into a space object every time they fight him.
Kratos isn't a jobber, and PIS is inapplicable in a forum fight. Ergo, no.

In the 2nd game it was more OP so you could only gain it from enemy hearts at times.

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know that's a no limit fallacy right?

Its used when Wolverine goes against someone from another verse who doesn't have some way to destroy it.

I've never seen anyone argue that Wolverine's Adamantium skeleton that even Thor couldn't break is a no-limits fallacy.

Its indestructible by anything except the strongest magicks, and metal cutters, like vibranium, there's no answer to it without one of these two things.

Unless someone distinctly says in the versus thread "Wolverine's Skeleton can be cut", its usually assumed that the combatant he's fighting has some other way to take him out besides killing him, such as this one.

Can't believe you've been on KMC this long and haven't noticed this.

Originally posted by KingD19
He gets things wrong...like a lot. Because Wolverine can take out the guy who is faster, and strong enough to punt him like a football into another state. Also, Wolverine got turned into stone by Gorgon in the comics. He's just as at risk against Kratos.

You get things wrong all the time, Mr. "Kenshin is faster then Guts, hell yeah".

Originally posted by Jmanghan
When I think "Wolverine", I'm thinking Wolverine at his best who's about to combat the Hulk, and Thor for a time, not the one who gets KO'ed by Captain America. Which is some of his low showings.

You get things wrong all the time, Mr. "Kenshin is faster then Guts, hell yeah".

Wolverine fights them, but the key thing is he doesn't win. It's like an annoyance for the people fighting him.

So you seem to be comparing Kratos to Captain America. You should be comparing him to Thor and Hulk and others when it comes to strength. The Kratos who pushed back Atlas. That Titan forced to hold up Earth for eons? Or Kronos? The most powerful Titan? Or Hercules.

I can put up plenty scans of Hulk and tons of people far lower than him on the totem pole knocking Logan the f*ck out.

If you want him to win, just say so. But don't ignore the evidence to the contrary. Logan gets KO'd or BFR'd a few seconds into this fight. Or Jackie dumps him in a black hole.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No its not.

Its used when Wolverine goes against someone from another verse who doesn't have some way to destroy it.

I've never seen anyone argue that Wolverine's Adamantium skeleton that even Thor couldn't break is a no-limits fallacy.

Its indestructible by anything except the strongest magicks, and metal cutters, like vibranium, there's no answer to it without one of these two things.

Unless someone distinctly says in the versus thread "Wolverine's Skeleton can be cut", its usually assumed that the combatant he's fighting has some other way to take him out besides killing him, such as this one.

Can't believe you've been on KMC this long and haven't noticed this.

Yes it is a no limit by claiming only Vibranium can cut him.

With you're logic, are u saying that
-Tenchi's Light Hawk Wings can't cut him?
-Or Kuhomine Black Tree blade can't cut him?
Or any Saint Seiya characters can't cut him

Kratos is not comparable to Thor or Hulk

He still stomps Wolverine, however

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Kratos is not comparable to Thor or Hulk

He still stomps Wolverine, however

Based on feats he is where it concerns strength.

No, he isn't

Originally posted by StealthRanger
No, he isn't

So casually chucking the Colossus of Rhodes, which is 220+ tons, or resisting Atlas trying to crush him, who literally held Earth on his shoulders up until he fought Kratos. Earth is 5.972 Sextillion tons. Superman held that weight up for 5 days. Atlas did it for thousands of years, and Kratos handed him his ass.

Or resisting Cronos trying to crush him? Or overpowering Hercules. None of that in your opinion makes him comparable strengthwise?

Chucking the Colossus doesn't compare to Thor's feat with the World Serpent, or Hulk benching a mountain range. Atlas held up the crust or w/e, he didn't hold up the entire planet. And he only did it for a decade or two in the series, demonstrably. GoW Hercules doesn't compare to Thor or Hulk either

Thor's damaged planets with hammer blows, which is beyond any destructive feat in the series

Gotta love how Saitama far is above Kratos but Thor and Hulk are comparable. lol

thor is multi-galaxy lv for what i remember... using feat from the game is not enough.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Chucking the Colossus doesn't compare to Thor's feat with the World Serpent, or Hulk benching a mountain range. Atlas held up the crust or w/e, he didn't hold up the entire planet. And he only did it for a decade or two in the series, demonstrably. GoW Hercules doesn't compare to Thor or Hulk either

Thor's damaged planets with hammer blows, which is beyond any destructive feat in the series

Gotta love how Saitama far is above Kratos but Thor and Hulk are comparable. lol

Its technically still the planet.

Wasn't the fight between the Titans and Gods threatening to destroy the universe???

With regards to our Earth, the crust (and everything on it) accounts for maybe 1% of its mass.

That said, GoW Earth is supposed to be flat, so it's operating under a different set of rules; though there is an easter egg in one of the games which shows a spherical Earth. srug

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No.

Isn't the Darkness a planetary+ level force or something?

EDIT: Never mind, it's just game Jackie.