DC: Rebirth

Started by Impediment12 pages
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So does this mean that the Watchmen characters are being introduced into the DCU as mainstream characters?

Originally posted by Impediment
Spoiler:
So does this mean that the Watchmen characters are being introduced into the DCU as mainstream characters?
If issue #1 is any indication, then it certainly seems that way.

I can't wait to see what happens next.

Originally posted by Impediment
I can't wait to see what happens next.

Batman beating up everybody 😄

I can't wait for Tom King's Batman and Christopher Priest's Deathstorke. Among other runs like BOP, Batgirl, and Nightwing. Williams on Flash looks awesome, too.

So I was just looking at this preview page, which features "The Hand of Rebirth"(supposedly Doctor Manhattan's hand) in the upper-left corner:

But when I started looking closer, it almost looks like a gloved hand to me:

...If so, that wouldn't really be consistent with the 'classic' Dr. M we all know and love.

Thoughts?

Could be Ozy?

I mean it's almost certain he'll be involved somehow.

Ozy is also gloveless, and has distinct wrist-gear:

...Though it's entirely possible that Johns retooled the costumes as well. /shrug

Green Arrow Rebirth sold over 90,000 copies. One of the highest selling in recent history. It's still early, but Rebirth has been solid so far.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/report-green-arrow-rebirth-1-sells-over-90000-copies

BTW, some speculate that MR. OZ is actually Ozymandias.

http://www.newsarama.com/29475-dcu-rebirth-fallout-is-the-mr-oz-who-s-been-watching-superman-ozymandias.html

If that's true then why isn't he a blue man?

Originally posted by Zack M
BTW, some speculate that MR. OZ is actually Ozymandias.

http://www.newsarama.com/29475-dcu-rebirth-fallout-is-the-mr-oz-who-s-been-watching-superman-ozymandias.html

Yeah, I saw that a few days ago--I'd be surprised if it wasn't him, honestly. Looking back at it now, Johns certainly laid out quite a few subtle Watchmen-esque clues that didn't mean shit a year ago, so nobody really caught on. However, those clues certainly mean a hell of a lot now. 👆

Originally posted by Kazenji
If that's true then why isn't he a blue man?
Because Dr. Manhattan is the blue guy.

So, will Ozymandias be the Dr. Doom of the DCU?

And if Hickman writes for the DCU (Even if it's only one title), will he write Ozymandias? That would be a dream come true.

Originally posted by Zack M
And if Hickman writes for the DCU (Even if it's only one title), will he write Ozymandias? That would be a dream come true.
Couldn't agree more. 👆

i've never been a huge watchmen fan. i liked the series well enough, but i didn't see it as this huge game-changer it's been made to be. if ozy becomes this...uber guy, i'd be a bit disappointed tbh. it would seem to go very much away from what his original intent was. at least imo. that's my whole problem with making the watchmen into more than they were--they were cool BECAUSE they were 'real life' style heroes, not universe busters and creators. they feel like they're just going to be turned into more of the same. and that would be unfortunate imo.

as regards the first group of books--i liked them well enough. the superman arc will be interesting. the doomsday superman is pretty classic, obviously but i'm still not sure exactly how i feel about him sort of re-assuming the mantle i guess. he seemed the lesser of the supermen, though he really shouldn't have been so it will be interesting to see how it goes. i thought the lanterns was ok--but really, ANOTHER guardian, with ANOTHER ring??? wtf?? is this a rainbow ring? seems pretty....unoriginal. i liked green arrow and thought bats was the best of the bunch. looking forward to the others coming out.

Originally posted by leonidas
i've never been a huge watchmen fan. i liked the series well enough, but i didn't see it as this huge game-changer it's been made to be. if ozy becomes this...uber guy, i'd be a bit disappointed tbh. it would seem to go very much away from what his original intent was. at least imo. that's my whole problem with making the watchmen into more than they were--they were cool BECAUSE they were 'real life' style heroes, not universe busters and creators. they feel like they're just going to be turned into more of the same. and that would be unfortunate imo.
I am also not a huge fan of the original story as a whole(especially that random world-ending alien octopus thing at the end..Da fuk?), but I have always loved Dr. Manhattan's characterization. I enjoyed not only seeing how a regular human would cope with suddenly gaining nigh-omnipotence, but also seeing him slowly lose touch with humanity. Loved that aspect of the character/story, at least(it was done just as well in Before Watchmen, imo.)

Gotta say, though: given Johns' penchant for taking obscure characters and cranking them up to the nth degree, I wouldn't at all be surprised if Ozy ends up being some type of Doom-analogue who has been masterminding all of the DCU's current shenanigans... Or if Manhattan has become some type of Supreme Being-analogue over the DCU.

Hope that doesn't end up being the case, because it would really cheapen the characters for me.

You guys are absolutely right. I used to cringe at debates with Watchmen characters in the vs. forum for the exact same reasons. I felt like it was missing the point to think about them that way.

BUT.

I just don't care enough anymore. I'm kinda tickled by the whole thing, because it has the air of a fanboy fever dream. They know their demographics. Sales will probably wane again in a year once they inevitably f*ck this reboot up. But fans will eat up this particular arc like pudding.

can't say you're about any of that....

Digi has become a hollow shade of the man you once knew... 😛