Originally posted by CosmicCometI know, but its the first feat
Superman's best feats are way above that.
Just as well, after 5 days, Superman started to sweat a bit, while Atlas did it for at least 2 decades with not much struggle.
He also did this while molten hot lava ran down his body for those 2 decades.
Originally posted by Stoic
Dude if we took both of their highest end feats, the Hulk dances all over Kratos. How can you even begin to compare these two? One of them has over 75 yrs of on panel feats, while the other has a few games that span less than 15 yrs. One of them can defeat Titans that have nearly no feats, while the other can bench press Jupiter.
Oh, I never argued otherwise. However, when you compare Hulk at his highest end with Kratos at his lowest end, and then go on to say that Wolverine would be a better match up, you need to be mocked a little. 😛
Hulk can bench press Jupiter? Cool beans. Atlas holds the Sun in one hand without breaking a sweat. vin
Those are Atlas' feats though. They aren't Kratos. What did Kratos lift that even possessed you to make a thread with him vs one of the strongest comic characters ever? The Hulk took one step and nearly sank the entire Eastern seaboard. This was also while he was holding himself back trying not to destroy the world. What has Kratos done to compare to that? I've played every GOW game and have yet to see how he even begins to compare. When I played one of the GOW's I had a fight with Perseus, and it was a real knock down drag out match. I don't see Perseus giving the Hulk any trouble at all.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Again, not to insult you, but you have no idea what you're talking about, The Titans do have feats, some feats that would be a near-threat to Superman.Kratos has the strength to rip Spiderman's arms off with no chance of him pulling back, and potentially even lift Thor's Hammer.
I can tell you right now, he'd kick the shit out of Juggernaut, who has fought Hulk evenly a few times.
Juggernaut? LOL no. Not Cain at full power.
Originally posted by Stoic
Those are Atlas' feats though. They aren't Kratos. What did Kratos lift that even possessed you to make a thread with him vs one of the strongest comic characters ever? The Hulk took one step and nearly sank the entire Eastern seaboard. This was also while he was holding himself back trying not to destroy the world. What has Kratos done to compare to that? I've played every GOW game and have yet to see how he even begins to compare. When I played one of the GOW's I had a fight with Perseus, and it was a real knock down drag out match. I don't see Perseus giving the Hulk any trouble at all.
Kratos is stronger than Atlas and Cronos by series end.
Perseus is a Demi-God himself, and it was not a close fight. Kratos broke his equipment and raped him.
Originally posted by Stoic
So are Hulk's
Read what I said again.
I said Kratos with estoteric abilities (read: magic), maybe able to pull a win off of a high end hulk, but that its doubtful. Hulk could probably pull off a thunderclap before he can time-stop and soul-steal.
An average Savage Hulk though? Kratos easily beats. For example, he could easily beat the one in Secret Wars that had to get mad enough just to brace 150 billion tons (which while very low compared to Hulk's best is still one of his tent-pole, iconic feats, ones which bios still tout).
Originally posted by StoicAtlas was unable to crush, or beat Kratos, and it wasn't from lack of trying, Kratos was just stronger then his one hand.
Those are Atlas' feats though. They aren't Kratos. What did Kratos lift that even possessed you to make a thread with him vs one of the strongest comic characters ever? The Hulk took one step and nearly sank the entire Eastern seaboard. This was also while he was holding himself back trying not to destroy the world. What has Kratos done to compare to that? I've played every GOW game and have yet to see how he even begins to compare. When I played one of the GOW's I had a fight with Perseus, and it was a real knock down drag out match. I don't see Perseus giving the Hulk any trouble at all.
Originally posted by StoicAlso, LOL at Hulk being one of the strongest comic characters ever, he isn't even in the Top 50 in physical strength.
Those are Atlas' feats though. They aren't Kratos. What did Kratos lift that even possessed you to make a thread with him vs one of the strongest comic characters ever? The Hulk took one step and nearly sank the entire Eastern seaboard. This was also while he was holding himself back trying not to destroy the world. What has Kratos done to compare to that? I've played every GOW game and have yet to see how he even begins to compare. When I played one of the GOW's I had a fight with Perseus, and it was a real knock down drag out match. I don't see Perseus giving the Hulk any trouble at all.
Originally posted by Stoic
Those are Atlas' feats though. They aren't Kratos. What did Kratos lift that even possessed you to make a thread with him vs one of the strongest comic characters ever? The Hulk took one step and nearly sank the entire Eastern seaboard. This was also while he was holding himself back trying not to destroy the world. What has Kratos done to compare to that? I've played every GOW game and have yet to see how he even begins to compare. When I played one of the GOW's I had a fight with Perseus, and it was a real knock down drag out match. I don't see Perseus giving the Hulk any trouble at all.
A high end Kratos is on par with Hercules, and by proxy, Atlas.
I didn't make this thread. facepalm
Beat Zeus to death.
Perseus barely gives Kratos any trouble. But by all means, please continue to lowball. 👆
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
A high end Kratos is on par with Hercules, and by proxy, Atlas.
I didn't make this thread. facepalmBeat Zeus to death.
Perseus barely gives Kratos any trouble. But by all means, please continue to lowball. 👆
The Hulk's intestines registered as being over 133 times tougher than Hercules. That's his intestines, and he was in a relatively calm state when this all went down. Can you imagine how much more powerful he actually is than Hercules when he completely lets go? No more low balling if that is what you think that i was doing. Just take the both of them at their most powerful. If Kratos is a mountain sized giant, then we make the Hulk a mountain sized giant as well, or it wouldn't really be a slugfest/fist fight right?
The Hulk at his most powerful leaped into the air and had an in air collision with his wife the Red She Hulk. On impact they indirectly destroyed the entire planet below them, and it's moon, perhaps even more, because when the dust cleared there was nothing to be seen but asteroids and dust clouds. Now I played the game, and I have yet to recall seeing anything that Kratos did that even comes close to that.
Originally posted by KingD19
You keep using feats from Hulk he can't normally access. HotM for example was from a wish. Worldbreaker isn't something he can just pull out his ass. You're using Hulk at his absolute highest and mixing and matching feats and just ignoring everything Kratos has done.
The Wishing Well had nothing to do with the Hulk's ability to push it up that far. You should go back and read the story, and the ones that lead up to HOTM. He certainly could have brought it up that high on his own. Red She Hulk needed the Wishing Well to get to those levels, not the Hulk.
Originally posted by KingD19
You keep using feats from Hulk he can't normally access. HotM for example was from a wish. Worldbreaker isn't something he can just pull out his ass. You're using Hulk at his absolute highest and mixing and matching feats and just ignoring everything Kratos has done.
Also, I just thought about your accusation. It's unfounded. If you read my post 2 posts up, I said that we should take them both at their very best. Unless of course you want to use Kratos' best feats, and Savage Hulk's average? The Hulk held back the entire time when he was on Earth because of the lives that would be lost if he went all out. This is not the case here with Kratos. He can go all out here like he did in the Dark Dimension.
There is no such thing as an 'average' for Kratos. That is a meaningless qualifier for him since he does not come from a constantly fluctuating medium with dozens of different writers like in comics.
He has a linear story, like the vast majority of fiction, with a beginning and an end, unlike the Hulk's story.
This means as is typical, he simply gets more powerful as the story progresses. And you go with the most chronologically recent one, by default.