Iron Fist (Netflix)

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I enjoyed it as well. And so did most of the people I spoke to. Though, admittedly, I felt like the final villain was a bit underwhelming. Cottonmouth had far more screen presence and charisma than Diamondback did. I initially thought Mariah was crap but, thinking about it, I realised that I hated her because she was such a vile person. Which means the portrayal was actually good for a super unlikable villain (like certain truly hated GoT characters). 😆

We'll see if I still think that at the end though. Endings to the seasons of these show are what they live and die by. DD season 2 would have been better than season 1 if it kept up the momentum from the first half. The ending and the entire Hand was weak and held it back. I hope the same doesn't happen here.

Diamondback so far has only been name dropped and everyone seems terrified of him. I'm hoping I disagree with your statement when it's all said and done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnywtK0tc6Y&index=5&list=PLC303CD63FB69116F

Colleen Wing lays the smackdown on two fodder meathead fighters

Cottonmouth >>> Diamonback, imo.

But Diamonback was perfect for what he was. (Which is basically what Bushwhacker was in the comics.)

YouTube video

Shou Lao is making an appearance
And apparently the creators of the show made 7 all new

villains for the show as well that he has to fight

I see they've managed to harass Finn Jones off Twitter for daring to be a white guy who plays Danny Rand.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
I see they've managed to harass Finn Jones off Twitter for daring to be a white guy who plays Danny Rand.

Yeah, that shit is just getting stupid. I read the most ridiculous article recently, where this guy was going on about how terrible it is that a white guy got cast as Iron Fist. Said the "only" right decision would have been to make him Asian. And said that the only people who disagreed are either diehards or racists.

Wait so the complaint people are having is that Finn Jones was cast instead of an Asian actor? Wouldn't casting an Asian actor for the role be perpetuating a stereotype instead of being progressive? Not to mention that Danny Rand is white but hey the Ancient One is Celtic so that's a thing...right?

Probably from people who are completely ignorant about the character and assume Rand is Asian in the comic-book because it has martial arts and Asian themes. I'd not waste my time with those sorts.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Wait so the complaint people are having is that Finn Jones was cast instead of an Asian actor? Wouldn't casting an Asian actor for the role be perpetuating a stereotype instead of being progressive? Not to mention that Danny Rand is white but hey the Ancient One is Celtic so that's a thing...right?

Far as I could tell, the argument goes that this is a missed opportunity to cast a minority in a lead role instead of a white guy. Even though in the source it IS a white guy in the lead, they think it makes more sense to change it to an asian guy.

Is that a stereotype? You bet. But between white savior vs typecasting, I guess they side with the typecasting.

Or what Fly said.

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably from people who are completely ignorant about the character and assume Rand is Asian in the comic-book because it has martial arts and Asian themes. I'd not waste my time with those sorts.

Sadly, the article I read was from someone who was fully aware of Rand's ethnicity in the comics. Hence why he included "diehards" (as in diehard Iron Fist fans), along with racists, as the only people who could possibly not think that Iron Fist should be Asian in the MCU.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Sadly, the article I read was from someone who was fully aware of Rand's ethnicity in the comics. Hence why he included "diehards" (as in diehard Iron Fist fans), along with racists, as the only people who could possibly not think that Iron Fist should be Asian in the MCU.

The fact they don't argue this with Daredevil or Batman proves how underrated Danny really is, sadly.

No one cares about Iron Fist except diehards.

Yeah so the reviews of at least the first half of the season seem mixed so far. It's hard to tell how much of it is legit and how much of it boils down to whining because they cast a white man to play a white man.

People call him a white savior, with the implication I guess being that you need to belong to a specific race in order to help out that race.

It would be amusing if at the very end he is about to fight the Big Bad and he is the only one who can defeat him and he just walks away going "sorry, not white enough to help, find yourselves an Asian, maybe that guy Daredevil set on fire, but who came back to life?".

Hearing bad things. Will keep an open mind though.

I'm hoping it's either just hysteria over the white/asian thing or maybe just the first half of the season begins slow and then it picks up. Since all of the reviews I read had only seen the first 6-7 episodes.

Though I'm guessing the final half of the season will be made available to reviewers before the show comes out Friday.

The only potential issues I might have are Finn being incapable of portraying Iron Fist and maybe the "bland" fight scenes.

We'll have to see in a few days.

friday cannot come fast enough

Originally posted by Nephthys
Hearing bad things. Will keep an open mind though.

Rocky was panned by critics.

I wouldn't put much stock in their reviews, especially considering nearly every review cites the other shows having problems, but being saved by *insert sjw issue here*.

The complaints I've seen seem to primarily be about how slow the show is not IF being white. Considering some of these same people gave Luke Cage positive reviews and their issues with IF is pacing, I've got very little hope for this series as that would suggest IF's pacing is even worse than LC and I though LC's pacing was absolutely terrible.