Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Nah I think the reviews are justified... The one and only redeeming quality of the show is "because marvel superheroes".
I don't think the show is good but I wouldn't say that's it's horrible either. A 5/10 instead of a 3-4/10. Not a huge difference.
The main problem I have with the reviewers though is that many have a sjw bent, complaining about the white casting (and I say this as an Asian) or the Danny character "mansplaining" to Colleen. Yes, they seriously used that word. At least two of them in my memory. This sort of reminds me of the whole Ghostbusters thing in which the politics became huge around a basically mediocre product. Except this time the politics are in the other direction.
Originally posted by random letters
I don't think the show is good but I wouldn't say that's it's horrible either. A 5/10 instead of a 3-4/10. Not a huge difference.The main problem I have with the reviewers though is that many have a sjw bent, complaining about the white casting (and I say this as an Asian) or the Danny character "mansplaining" to Colleen. Yes, they seriously used that word. At least two of them in my memory. This sort of reminds me of the whole Ghostbusters thing in which the politics became huge around a basically mediocre product. Except this time the politics are in the other direction.
Nah the choreography was extremely lazy. What makes it even worse is that it's in Iron fist series of all characters. Completely inexcusable.
3/10
I'm not able to discern what makes good choreography so for me the fight scenes were ok. Ironically the fight I didn't care for was the drunken master fight which everyone else loves (also that spider lady fight, yeesh). I have seen it pointed out what some issues were though and when pointed out I can tell the flaws are real. One other thing is that the lack of a costume really hurt them, since they can't swap in the stunt double very easily and Finn isn't a martial artist at all. You can thank Daredevil for stealing his costume in season 1, lol. >_<
I have learned that the showrunner for this is actually the guy who did seasons 6-8 of Dexter. You know, the unbearably awful parts. So that may explain some of the incompetence seen here.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not able to discern what makes good choreography so for me the fight scenes were ok. Ironically the fight I didn't care for was the drunken master fight which everyone else loves (also that spider lady fight, yeesh). I have seen it pointed out what some issues were though and when pointed out I can tell the flaws are real. One other thing is that the lack of a costume really hurt them, since they can't swap in the stunt double very easily and Finn isn't a martial artist at all. You can thank Daredevil for stealing his costume in season 1, lol. >_<I have learned that the showrunner for this is actually the guy who did seasons 6-8 of Dexter. You know, the unbearably awful parts. So that may explain some of the incompetence seen here.
Let me break this down for you. Iron fist is a superhero martial artist trained by mystical monks, and is one of THE best fighters I the marvel universe. His fight scenes should be top notch up there with jet li Fist of Legend
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
How are you not able to discern good choreography? The hell?Let me break this down for you. Iron fist is a superhero martial artist trained by mystical monks, and is one of THE best fighters I the marvel universe. His fight scenes should be top notch up there with jet li Fist of Legend
This is a spot on post, Loras Tyrell's clear lack of proper martial arts training is a big issue, he just looks like a mannequin on strings trying to do Kung Fu.
Originally posted by cdtm
At least we have Enter the Badlands.Because lets be honest, nothing in any of the Netflix series comes close.
A big element to the success of the Into the Badlands fight scenes is Daniel Wu. Not only does he have actual martial arts training and experience, but he makes an active effort to put that knowledge into the rest of the show as well. And the cast themselves put in a lot of work.
As well as the stunt crew.
I doubt Finn Jones put this much effort into his prep for this role.
Originally posted by Robtard
Netflix doesn't have a budget issue, they could easily have funded Jet Li level martial arts choreography.
And that Will Smith movie has a 90 million dollar budget.
I wish panna rittikrai was still alive I think his Stunt team would have nailed that insane fighting iron fist should have been pulling off.
Originally posted by Robtard
Netflix doesn't have a budget issue, they could easily have funded Jet Li level martial arts choreography.
You're not taking into account that all of the Marvel Netflix shows, and the Marvel Television component outright, fall under Ike Perlmutter's domain. The shows do have pretty strict budget restrictions. Most recent example prior to this was the abbreviated appearance of Ghost Rider on Agents of Shield due to budget constraints for effects.
I personally enjoyed it quite a bit. It admittedly starts out slowly with the whole proving his identity arc but when it catches it's stride around episode 5 it kept me interested and wanting to see what would happen next. It was disappointing because of my high expectations knowing the character's history, but for what it actually ended up being it's a good tv show, just not the mindblowing martial arts epic Iron Fist, by it's comic history, should have been.