Zannah, Bastila & Barriss vs. Anakin, Kenobi, Ahsoka & Kanan

Started by Beniboybling2 pages

Originally posted by Emperordmb
No

There's two sources stating that Dooku made short work of Anakin and Obi-Wan, a Star Wars Fact File, and The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia.
Right, and I don't deny that he did. But according to the novelisation Dooku was pressed by his initial assault. Clearly he was no match, but he briefly held his own, and did better than Kenobi.
In any case, I've noticed he always performs better against Dooku in his 1v1s with him than he does against anyone else. If he truly were Dooku level he wouldn't have so much trouble with Barriss, Hondo, and Ventress in particular. So I really don't view him as being a Dooku level combatant until the tail end of the Clone Wars.
Probably not, but the fact remains neither Dooku nor Anakin gained an advantage on Tatooine, so he's not too far off.
Perhaps, however she's managed to survive a brief duel with ROT Bane, whose offense is powerful enough to drive back Raskta, Farfalla, and Johun at the same time, and she managed to hold her own against a BM amped Sarro Xaj, one of the best duelists in the Galaxy vastly physically superior to Johun (who can throw a man over his head with one arm and move to quickly for the eye to follow).
I would agree that it's unlikely she'll be overwhelmed.
And here, unlike in her fight with Sarro where she couldn't find an opening, Zannah has plenty of room to retreat, meaning she could step back to alleviate offensive pressure and free up more of her energy towards her sorcery. That or she could flip several meters backwards to create the necessary opening.
Potentially, but I would imagine in the time it would take for Zannah to flip away, Anakin can advance and reclose the gap.
Right which is why I'm not saying she ragdolls Obi-Wan. I still believe such a feat supports her being the superior telekinetic however.

Bastila likewise was briefly able to hold her own against Malak, though not as impressive as the Maul thing. Kenobi's rage amped feat is hardly representative of what he's capable normally, though it does demonstrate he's impressive in lightsaber combat. Kenobi's superiority in lightsaber combat is the reason I never said Bastila could take him, just that she could hold him off.

Fair enough.
No but it's still there, and Barriss would still defeat her 1v1.

Yes and this has been brought to my attention by Syndicate and King Joker and it's a point I freely concede.

This is where I stop agreeing with you. Barriss and Ahsoka contending with the likes of Grievous Ventress and Anakin is far more impressive than throwing down with the inquisitors.

Well tbh Ahsoka is probably more skilled, however I think Kanan has demonstrated greater Force power. Ragdolling stormtroopers for example > Ahsoka's TK, and he's had an additional 15 years to grow into his prime.

Whether or not that levels out her skill is questionable I suppose.

I'm uncertain at this point. It depends on what ends first between Zannah and Anakin and Barriss and the padawan duo, which I'm unsure of atm.
I would agree. I imagine if Zannah manages to eliminate Anakin she'd be able to TP everyone else as they are distracted.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Ragdolling stormtroopers for example > Ahsoka's TK,

Ahsoka's best TK feat is like, what, flooring a bunch of battle droids?

Originally posted by Beniboybling

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, and I don't deny that he did. But according to the novelisation Dooku was pressed by his initial assault. Clearly he was no match, but he briefly held his own, and did better than Kenobi. Probably not, but the fact remains neither Dooku nor Anakin gained an advantage on Tatooine, so he's not too far off.

Perhaps the good Count was caught off guard? Idk, based on his fight with Ventress a few months later, he's not even on her level yet, and the good Count dominates her every time they clash blades.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I would agree that it's unlikely she'll be overwhelmed.Potentially, but I would imagine in the time it would take for Zannah to flip away, Anakin can advance and reclose the gap.

This is assuming Anakin's behaving as if he actually knows he can't afford to give Zannah the briefest of pauses in a duel, which he doesn't.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fair enough.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Well tbh Ahsoka is probably more skilled, however I think Kanan has demonstrated greater Force power. Ragdolling stormtroopers for example > Ahsoka's TK, and he's had an additional 15 years to grow into his prime. Whether or not that levels out her skill is questionable I suppose.

I'm very pressed for time atm, so I'll just let Joker chew you out on that one.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I would agree. I imagine if Zannah manages to eliminate Anakin she'd be able to TP everyone else as they are distracted.

More likely she'd use a spell of concealment and stab them from behind.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Ahsoka's best TK feat is like, what, flooring a bunch of battle droids?
Possibly, but how is ragdolling stormtroopers beyond Ahsoka's capabilities? She's performed similar feats pre-prime:

She brought down a wall in one of the Clone wars gambit books, Stealth I think it was on top of droids

Hmm fair enough had forgotten those showings, what about TKing the Inquisitior though? Not sure she'd be capable of that.

Originally posted by carthage
She brought down a wall in one of the Clone wars gambit books, Stealth I think it was on top of droids

She brought down a wall within minutes of the movie that introduced her.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Hmm fair enough had forgotten those showings, what about TKing the Inquisitior though? Not sure she'd be capable of that.
Well, the Inquisitors was caught off guard and was still at that time "far more powerful" than Kanan. I bet Ahsoka could replicate that feat easily. She shoved Ventress a large distance in Season 1 when Ventress herself was also caught off guard similar to how the Inquisitor was, after all.