Originally posted by Syndicate
Galen has contended with Vader's strikes who should be at the very least an equal to Anakin.
Why?
Galen also beat a version of Vader who has all of Anakin's knowledge and experience along with years to have reworked his form to suit his cybernetics.
Reworked to cover his newly exposed ass, not necessarily to improve.
Originally posted by Syndicate
I don't... I don't... What?
How is he slower? How is he less powerful? Losing to someone doesn't make you less powerful then somebody else.
He's not far more powerful then Starkiller in TFUII.
Galen > Caedus? Hmmm... 🙂
TFU Vader has destroyed Wookiee tree bases and stomped a Jedi with ease along with casually lifting a stone table weighing multiple tons and defending against the telekinetic assault of someone like Marek. I fail to see how this would be his weakest incarnation.
Originally posted by Syndicate
How is he slower?
How is he less powerful? Losing to someone doesn't make you less powerful then somebody else.
He's not far more powerful then Starkiller in TFUII.
Galen > Caedus? Hmmm... 🙂TFU Vader has destroyed Wookiee tree bases and stomped a Jedi with ease along with casually lifting a stone table weighing multiple tons and defending against the telekinetic assault of someone like Marek. I fail to see how this would be his weakest incarnation.
Yes. He's less agile sure but I don't see how he's slower in regards to combat speed.
Except by feats both Vader and Galen are more powerful then Anakin. You're time wasting circular logic doesn't work on a guy with too much time on his hands like me.
Based on feats.
How does it not translate into combat? Vader attempts to telekintetically assault Galen and Galen repels. He has the relative feats to do so. It's simple logic.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Galen has contended with Vader's strikes who should be at the very least an equal to Anakin.
Sorry dear, but you do know Galen's strength does not have to be on a tantamount level to a combatant to contend with his strikes, right? More to the point - who says Anakin and Vader's strength feats are even from the get-go?
Originally posted by Syndicate
Galen also beat a version of Vader who has all of Anakin's knowledge and experience along with years to have reworked his form to suit his cybernetics. Vader should honestly be more skilled then Anakin by this point.
Technical skill, maybe. But then again, technical skill is not superior to actual in-combat practice, which Anakin supersedes Vader in. They use two completely different styles, and fight with two different mindsets so trying to scale one off the other is just faulty logic. Anakin's feats is Anakin's - Vader's feats is Vader.
Show me Vader having feats that supersede stalemating duelist on Dooku's caliber before hitting his prime and becoming far more powerful in the Force, then I would entertain this train of thought.
Originally posted by Syndicate
This is all without mentioning Galen's superior force abilities.
He has the advantage, but honestly, that is partly because of the medium from which he originates. Even then, the Force gap isn't as big as the dueling one, so meh.
Originally posted by Syndicate
[B]Yes. He's less agile sure but I don't see how he's slower in regards to combat speed.
That's like the very definition of the word you used.
Except by feats both Vader and Galen are more powerful then Anakin. You're time wasting circular logic doesn't work on a guy with too much time on his hands like me.Based on feats.
How does it not translate into combat? Vader attempts to telekintetically assault Galen and Galen repels. He has the relative feats to do so. It's simple logic.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Sorry dear, but you do know Galen's strength does not have to be on a tantamount level to a combatant to contend with his strikes, right? More to the point - who says Anakin and Vader's strength feats are even from the get-go?Technical skill, maybe. But then again, technical skill is not superior to actual in-combat practice, which Anakin supersedes Vader in. They use two completely different styles, and fight with two different mindsets so trying to scale one off the other is just faulty logic. Anakin's feats is Anakin's - Vader's feats is Vader.
Show me Vader having feats that supersede stalemating duelist on Dooku's caliber before hitting his prime and becoming far more powerful in the Force, then I would entertain this train of thought.
He has the advantage, but honestly, that is partly because of the medium from which he originates. Even then, the Force gap isn't as big as the dueling one, so meh.
I didn't say it had to be. I'm simply saying he was able to handle that kind of strength just fine and thus he should be able to handle Anakin's in a similar manner. I do because their comparative feats are either even or end up favoring Vader.
Vader retains all of Anakin's knowledge and experience on top of his own. Technical skill applies to combat. It's as simple as that.
False argument there. We can already gauge Vader's combative skill by way of his feats and knowledge that he should have gained greater technical skill as time passed. The foes Vader faced benefit from having lasted any amount of time against him. We don't need to scale off of said opponents because we already know approximately where Vader should be at this point.
Vader simply has superior feats to a non enraged non focused Anakin. He has also has shown better precision and control.
You want to talk about medium bias? Anakin can draw feats from the 2003 miniseries and its comic, one of the most exaggerated mediums in the entire franchise.