Originally posted by TH3_V01Dnuff said
Looks like an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer to me. Tho from the image, I can't really be sure.
Thing weighs from about 9k-11k tons. Impressive "feat" to be sure.
Tho, dragging it on water and ice does reduce a lot of its friction. I dunno. Still pretty freakin impressive. Is that from the new movie? Looks pretty CGI-y. Hope movie doesn't look like that.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Doing a little research, it looks like the friction coefficient of steel on ice is about .03. Kinda reduces the feat's impressiveness quite a bit...Edit. Tho, I'd like to reiterate that I'm no physicist, so I might well be WAY off.
Considering it's ripping through the ice and not merely sliding across it, it really shouldn't.
Originally posted by ares834
Sure. Not sure what you are trying to say here though.
Well, my understanding of the "feat" is that, while the destroyer is around 9-11k tons (fully loaded, which means the ship he is dragging should be below this number), the actual force needed to achieve said pull is greatly reduced by the much lower resistance due to the low steel-to-ice friction coefficient (plus maybe some added resistance from the ice breaking from the weight of the ship). That he is NOT actually applying equal force as need to lift 9-11k tons, but a small fraction of said amount.
I haven't crunched the numbers, however. So, I have been feeling lazy as of late.
The most important question lies in where the "feat" even originates. Is it part of the new movie or what?
Originally posted by Robtard
You're using Ulron's machine as a feat for Thor. That's like saying you can destroy a building with a hand gun, because you used a bullet fired from that gun to trigger the explosion of a bomb that was already in the building.To your edit of adding the clip. The plot was that they were going to use the energy in Ultron's machine to destroy the city/landmass by overloading it. If Thor could have done it alone by just slamming his hammer, they wouldn't have bothered with the machine. IM helped him too from the other end.
Ok, so pretty close but there was NO bomb or exploding device inside the portion of Sokovia that was lifted into the air. I'm not sure why everyone has different ideas about what happened. There was literallly an x-ray picture of the landmass and what Ultron put inside of it. And then Tony gave a run through of what was going on. I literally just rewatched that scene for this so.
In the center of the landmass is the vibranium tube/drill that runs from top to bottom that will hold the hole thing together. Around the island are random repulsors and engines to lift the island to the desired height and drop it creating an ELE ( extinction level event) similiar to the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.
Thor charged an attack and struck the Vibranium, Tony said that Thor could break the island by himself but he needed to cause a heat seal so that THORS POWER could double back. The Vibranium absorbs a certain amount of energy and reflects the rest back. As shown in all of the Avengers movies and explained in CA:TFA. It was hinted at in the beginning against the enhanced soldiers.
The only thing Tony did was seal the end of the vibranium off so that instead of shooting out the other end, Thor's attack doubled back and reverberated amongst itself to turn everything into rubble and not just large chunks. Which if he had not sealed it off probably would have just cracked whole thing down the center.
Even ignoring that huge feat of destroying the landmass with his power doubled back because the Kryptonians have nothing remotely close to it, and assuming you pretend there was a random bomb that was never mentioned in the movie exploded. There is still the damage that that one lightning bolt ( this one unamplified by the Chrysler Buildings ability to somehow magically enhance lightning even though no other building anywhere "amps"lightning that I know of.) did when it initially touched down and completely atomized, not cut through a single girder but ashed multiple buildings in less time than Supes cut through a single beam with his hv. Lightning is still hotter than the surface of the sun by a good bit so that would explain that.
The World Engine is a teraformer, its not a weapon. It obviously took it awhile and wasnt that powerful if normal humans were withstanding it.
Thor never destroyed the island using physical strength, he destroyed a few blocks but his lightning with help from Tony is what did it.
Kal and Zod have very few feats, throwing trucks and punching each other through buildings is normal for heroes on this level. Thors exotic powers are dangerous and Hulk is virtually unstoppable.
Avengers win for now.