https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgayI3mTfTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFbP4MdJjiw
All one needs to know about this fight is the above video. Cap and Bucky get so overrated on this forum it's unreal. You'll notice two things which make this a lopsided fight one v one against either, or with more difficulty against both.
Beast isn't going to just stand and go toe to toe with either, and surely not at the same time. He'll fight like he always does, leaping and flying around and doing all sorts of crazy things in the air i.e. throwing you with his legs or arms or simply kick/punch guys. Yes, Cap and Bucky excel at fighting h2h close quarters combat, like how they train in the military. They are at a complete disadvantage because of this, and naïve on how to fight against such a foe. While Beast, is certainly not naïve to fighting guys with military, and or boxing training, as well as overall just tough strong guys. Cap and Bucky will get tossed around like a salad and put down eventually.
Second, Beast not only has the above advantage but he also has almost all the stats in his favor. He's decisively faster than either both on the ground and dramatically in the air. He's likely stronger than either, certainly bucky, but at the very least right there with Cap. Simply look at how he effortlessly tosses grown men around as if it were nothing. I don't see Cap throwing somebody like Wolverine the way and how far Beast did. Don't see it. That was a younger Beast and not even as strong as he would become. So he's faster, more agile on the ground or in the air, likely better reaction speed but at the least on par, likely stronger as discussed above.. all the while holding a decisive advantage in styles.
Fights aren't fought just on paper, styles make fights, and in this case Beast holds a decided edge there. It's simply silly to even imply either have a chance one v one, both of them, sure it would be a hard fight thanks to their healing factor. But in the end, I just see Beast dominating the fight in more places and making them look bad. If you add in beast going BEAST mode, their throats would be destroyed in viscious fashion. That's a stomp. Here, I'm assuming he won't go for the kill, but he'll still be dominating this fight. We're talking about a guy who be Azazel, Tossing mutants arounds like they were nothing, has taken it to Magneto and likely could've killed him had he went for the kill. In the end, beast is simply better in too many ways to lose this fight. Let's not forget, Beast is also vastly smarter than either, he'd figure out a way to get the job done, while being superior stats wise
It's telling that the only person making these claims about Beast, and insisting that he would win, is someone with a long history of downplaying Cap/Bucky. And what is more telling is that he believes Beast would "dominate" and "rip them a new one", or basically stomp them, yet he is also the OP. So he has basically admitted that he tried to make a spite thread, and now is upset that it backfired.
I don't know about that. I think he could definitely pull wins against either one-on-one, but a numbers advantage, especially when the guys are as in sync as Cap & Bucky, is a massive tipping factor in a fight. The way they were beating up on Tony together it was almost as though they had a mental link, but then they did fight side-by-side for years, during WW2.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
It's telling that the only person making these claims about Beast, and insisting that he would win, is someone with a long history of downplaying Cap/Bucky. And what is more telling is that he believes Beast would "dominate" and "rip them a new one", or basically stomp them, yet he is also the OP. So he has basically admitted that he tried to make a spite thread, and now is upset that it backfired.
Reading comprehension is your friend VD. The reality of what I said was that one v. one I see him dominating. In a 2 v 1 situation, I said it would be harder. The only other time I said it would be brutal and dominant, is if Beast goes for the kill right away with his claws. Should be fair game in a h2h encounter, and devastating, but I even assumed he wouldn't. I think it would be a decent fight, but a fight that is beasts' to lose.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Reading comprehension is your friend VD. The reality of what I said was that one v. one I see him dominating. In a 2 v 1 situation, I said it would be harder. The only other time I said it would be brutal and dominant, is if Beast goes for the kill right away with his claws. Should be fair game in a h2h encounter, and devastating, but I even assumed he wouldn't. I think it would be a decent fight, but a fight that is beasts' to lose.
Don't backtrack now that you've been caught. You claimed "Here I'm assuming he won't go for the kill, but he'll still be dominating this fight". Are you denying you said this in the thread you yourself made?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Don't backtrack now that you've been caught. You claimed "[B]Here I'm assuming he won't go for the kill, but he'll still be dominating this fight". Are you denying you said this in the thread you yourself made? [/B]
I shouldn't have to define terms that should already be known in a vs. battle. When I say dominate, when speaking of a h2h encounter... that can encompass many types of dominate. To use real life examples:
1. One could say if I submit somebody, I dominated them. I made them tap. That doesn't mean I dominated every second of the fight. For example Diaz vs. McGregor. McGregor was dominating the whole first round and most of the second. Nate was bleeding like a stuffed pig. However, all it took was one blow that stunned him, followed up by more blows and then a submission.
2. Pernell Whitaker vs. Ramirez.... Pea was seen backing up for most of the fight and Ramirez was the aggressor pushing the fight. Remirez was never hurt, or in any danger the entire fight. that didn't stop Pea from dominating almost every second of the fight making Ramirez look terrible. Yet he never hurt him, never drew blood, never had him in any danger and backed up most of the fight. Yet he still dominated him.
3. A fight could be relatively close, but one fight is dominating where the action is fought and how. So he's looking and feeling like the better ring general and like he's dominating the action.
or dominating can mean the only way you seem to be able to define it
4. One guy kicking the crap out of the other with little to no response.
Point is, Beast will be bossing the fight and dictating the fight. Not WS or Cap. They will be fighting out of their element, and thus why I see Beast dictating and dominating the action. I'm not shying away from a thing, I just didn't think I need to define a basic term like that when it comes to combat. There are many forms of dominating. Now if it's one v one and he can go for the kill... It's 4 all day everyday. 2 v 1... could be either of the first 3 or a combo of both. But Beast is winning.