Perseus runs the fistfight/swordfight gauntlet

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
As for recovering injuries quickly, i know he healed from being shot in the hand, but did he seriously heal from an exposion very fast? Becuase from few clips i've seen he took a lot of time to heal back his arm from the wrist up. Also what's this him not being able to heal broken bones quickly enoug that I am hearing about?

Also,about the sword into the concrete, didn't that guy pull it out and escape? So was that Ajax or was that some mook?

Anway, prepare for the walls of text (you judge if its Kurupt-lite) of Perseus strength and durability

Yes, the explosion is how he escapes the one scenario. And he broke his bones hitting Colossus, which is not exactly a low end showing, considering the guy is made out of super durable, organic metal. And I don't know about "not quickly enough". They popped back into place not that long after they were broken, but he was indeed briefly in trouble when both his hands and one leg was broken. But again, that was while fighting Colossus, so it's not like Wade's limbs just break for nothing. He headbutted Angel Dust, another super strong and durable character, and caused her visible pain without hurting himself, as well. And as mentioned before, he can take multi-storey falls without sustaining injuries. There is also a scene where a person unloads a clip worth of bullets into Wade and he basically ignores it.

And that was Ajax on the bridge, who had even greater enhanced strength than Deadpool, based on feats. That fact that he actually takes a katana through the chest, yet can still pull it out and make his escape (and later when he gets to his compound seemed more irritated than anything else), tells you he was no glass statue either.

And like I said, those are just 2 factors with him. He was also extremely fast, acrobatic, agile, and very skilled with his weapons. He does things like decap a guy, then before the head can even hit the ground, he will kick it into another guy's head. Or headshot 3 different people with a single shot, while flipping through the air. And he is constantly on the move, pulling off similar things with his guns and swords.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
And if that can't be classified superhuman, I don't know. If you are meaning Cap and Cap+ level is superhuman, then yes Perseus is peak human

Well, like I said before, the goalposts for that seem to shift depending on the film. So I personally feel it's best to just compare things directly, instead of trying to attach labels. Like Perseus would be straight up superhuman in the real world, with some of the things he has done, but he'd likely just be considered an exceptionally skilled and physically capable human in a bunch of fictional settings. But then stick him in a different fictional setting, and he would be considered superhuman again.

Take another example. Hobbs from the F&F franchise is not a "super" human in his world, yet he can do things no ordinary human can. Now if you put that character in another Rock film, like the more realistic and gritty Snitch, he would definitely be a superhuman freakshow in that world, based on what he is physically capable of.

Wade even takes a knife to the brain and isn't KO'd, though admittedly he is somewhat disorientated and hallucinates. But he is totally fine right after he pulls it out.

And to understand what bringing up Colossus and Angel means, during their own fight they were easily shifting multiple tons worth of rubble, and knocking each other 50 plus feet with hits etc. And Deadpool shows that he can hang with people physically stronger than him in H2H, when he fights Ajax without his swords during some parts of their encounter.

Angel Dust sends Colossus soaring a huge distance with her first hit when they meet, and later sends Colossus flying a few dozen feet with a friggin' crotch shot. And at one stage Colossus picks her up and tosses her couple dozen feet again, over a pile of rubble, where she lands on the opposite side. And they were smashing each other into steel beams, cars etc. and destroying them, while remaining virtually unharmed. So these guys are seriously heavy hitters.

But at the end of it, I see Wade's overall combination of abilities allowing him to be able to handle anything Perseus might throw at him, while also having enough offensive capability to put Perseus down.

I say he loses to blade and splits with Deadpool. Jason Is just to damn slow for this one. He may be overall most powerful due to 80's horror movie magic but I dont see him doing well against an actual opponent in a sword fight.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
He may be overall most powerful due to 80's horror movie magic but I dont see him doing well against an actual opponent in a sword fight.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, like I said before, the goalposts for that seem to shift depending on the film. So I personally feel it's best to just compare things directly, instead of trying to attach labels. Like Perseus would be straight up superhuman in the real world, with some of the things he has done, but he'd likely just be considered an exceptionally skilled and physically capable human in a bunch of fictional settings. But then stick him in a different fictional setting, and he would be considered superhuman again.
Take another example. Hobbs from the F&F franchise is not a "super" human in his world, yet he can do things no ordinary human can. Now if you put that character in another Rock film, like the more realistic and gritty Snitch, he would definitely be a superhuman freakshow in that world, based on what he is physically capable of.

Sorry, but I going be a bit more blunt. Yes, there are many characters who are human level in their setting and superhuman in others but even then, there are various levels. Mcclane would also look superhuman, just below Hobbs. And guys like John Matrix and Hightower (Police academy) would be above them. Then comes the actual superhumans like Riddick and Marv, then those above them like Winter Soldier, Perseus, Hellboy, then those above them like Cap, Ares, Raphael, Yulaw, etc. And I believe Perseus has done things that would make him superhuman pretty much everywhere (then again, so has Wade), and imho "a bunch of fictional settings" that Perseus would "likely just be considered an exceptionally skilled and physically capable human" would be quite close to comicbook levels, since Perseus has done things even rare among the comicbook peak humans except for the top guys who could trounce him.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Wade even takes a knife to the brain and isn't KO'd, though admittedly he is somewhat disorientated and hallucinates. But he is totally fine right after he pulls it out.
And to understand what bringing up Colossus and Angel means, during their own fight they were easily shifting multiple tons worth of rubble, and knocking each other 50 plus feet with hits etc. And Deadpool shows that he can hang with people physically stronger than him in H2H, when he fights Ajax without his swords during some parts of their encounter.
Angel Dust sends Colossus soaring a huge distance with her first hit when they meet, and later sends Colossus flying a few dozen feet with a friggin' crotch shot. And at one stage Colossus picks her up and tosses her couple dozen feet again, over a pile of rubble, where she lands on the opposite side. And they were smashing each other into steel beams, cars etc. and destroying them, while remaining virtually unharmed. So these guys are seriously heavy hitters.
But at the end of it, I see Wade's overall combination of abilities allowing him to be able to handle anything Perseus might throw at him, while also having enough offensive capability to put Perseus down.

Anyway, I never expected Perseus to finish this gauntlet as well. I don't think he could put down Jason in a fistfight, and i see him losing in a swordfight against Erik most of the time. ANd its just that Idon't see him losing a fistfight to Wade, as like Wade, Perseus has fought similarly tough opponents and more powerful oens as well, ones with more power disparity than wade foguht
Also some unnecessary nitpicking. I don't remeber wade kicking a guy and the door and sending itand the guy going down the road. Wade double kicked the sleeping guy - he was left hanging out of the jeep while the door fell off

You are aware that the explosion was caused by the match inside the tank? That's the whole reason the thing blew up. So the tank would not have protected him that much. I mean the whole thing got blasted and was shattered open when Ajax found it, indicating it took a hell of a beating, and Wade inside it too. So it's still a solid durability feat. The sheer fact that it was left in that condition, when the one Vanessa was in remained pretty much solid, despite the drop and impact at the end of the film, shows the level of the explosion.

And while I miss-remembered about the guy, the point was more about the door than him, unless you know a lot of regular people who can kick someone hard enough into a door to knock it off its hinge? The person was the minor part of that feat IMO.

Other than that, guess we will just have to disagree about the result.

I am actually thinking though that he could probably beat Jason with a blade. Fist fight might be a bit tough against Jason's damage soak though.

Blade, however, has him outclassed quite noticeably IMO, and takes all rounds with relative ease.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
And while I miss-remembered about the guy, the point was more about the door than him, unless you know a lot of regular people who can kick someone hard enough into a door to knock it off its hinge? The person was the minor part of that feat IMO.

You carelessly claimed the former while the latter was what happened which is why I objected

The guy was dead. He'd literally just gotten riddled with bullets by one of his own guys on a motorcycle a second earlier. But anyway, that hardly matters. And while I miss-remembered about the guy, as I mentioned earlier (I remembered the rider getting tossed actually), you are underselling it now as well. The door didn't just simply fall off. It went flying into the motorcycle rider next to the car with enough force to make him to crash hard. So I disagree with your comparison there. But anyways, I've said my piece in this thread.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
You are aware that the explosion was caused by the match inside the tank? That's the whole reason the thing blew up. So the tank would not have protected him that much. I mean the whole thing got blasted and was shattered open when Ajax found it, indicating it took a hell of a beating, and Wade inside it too. So it's still a solid durability feat.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller

There is also a scene where a person unloads a clip worth of bullets into Wade and he basically ignores it.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The guy was dead. He'd literally just gotten riddled with bullets by one of his own guys on a motorcycle a second earlier. But anyway, that hardly matters. And while I miss-remembered about the guy, as I mentioned earlier (I remembered the rider getting tossed actually), you are underselling it now as well. The door didn't just simply fall off. It went flying into the motorcycle rider next to the car with enough force to make him to crash hard.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
when the one Vanessa was in remained pretty much solid, despite the drop and impact at the end of the film, shows the level of the explosion.

Damn, now that is a series of 3 mistakes I've made. I sincerely apologize. I watched the climax again. I didn't notice that negasonic was opening the lid of the cage. I thought it had just broken off when I saw Colossus lifting the rubble and Vanessa climbing out.
And same goes for the car scene. I hadn't noticed the guy was gunned down, or that the door went onto the biker, especially since I did notice the biker spraying bullets into the car. Sorry

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller

I am actually thinking though that he could probably beat Jason with a blade.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Fist fight might be a bit tough against Jason's damage soak though.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Blade, however, has him outclassed quite noticeably IMO, and takes all rounds with relative ease.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Except when confronted with a H2H situation against Gregor, he had no answer for it, and got his head exploded, Gregor is above Peak Human.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yeah, meant with weapons. Fistfight vs someone with plated gauntlets and full plate armor is a whole diff story.

What are Gregor's feats anyway:

Crushing skulls?

Slicing cleanly through mean and decapitating a horse?

Wearing armor too heavy for normal men and weilding a 6ft greatsword?

1st one's already taken care of. And in the strength department Perseus has matched strength with those who can carry around trees to use as staffs

Perseus has sliced clean through Medusa, someone much tougher and stronger than ordinary people or horses. Also, making use of a metal staff the size of policeman's baton he smashed to dust a combination of enchanted chains (that the superhuman Zeus couldn't break) and magical volcanic rock (which Andromeda, another person who has decapitated a superhuman with her sword, couldn't even crack with multiple sword strikes) And in a swordfight with the super-strong Calibos he sent the guy flying when he tried to block Perseus sword slash with his own sword

And Perseus punches have hurt Calibos, someone who could literally stand there and not be budged by hits from normal humans. And his shield has taken superhuman blows

In fact, I think Perseus breezes through the first round in both fights

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Another minor unnecessary nitpicking. Didn't that guy only shoot two or three before he ran out of bullets?
Damn, now that is a series of 3 mistakes I've made. I sincerely apologize. I watched the climax again. I didn't notice that negasonic was opening the lid of the cage. I thought it had just broken off when I saw Colossus lifting the rubble and Vanessa climbing out.
And same goes for the car scene. I hadn't noticed the guy was gunned down, or that the door went onto the biker, especially since I did notice the biker spraying bullets into the car. Sorry

Eh, we both don't remember everything 100%, so not an issue. At least we are both here to fill in any gaps the other has. 😆

I actually feel like I need to watch the film again, because a lot of the action is so fast paced, and busy, that it's super easy to miss small details here and there. As seen in this thread, a few things slipped my mind as well.

As to Blade, you have to really go back to his films to appreciate him. I know I was underselling him for a while, because I simply couldn't remember half the things he does in the films. The sheer fact that he goes toe to toe with guys who can dodge bullets etc. gives him a huge speed advantage. And he is physically strong enough to compete in the same class as these guys as well. And on top of that he has high levels of skill as well, and durability on top of it, and it tips it in his favour. But I consider Blade to easily be the top player in this thread. Well beyond Wade, Jason or Mountain.