Buu gets slaughtered in all of them. However he should be able to beat the worn down Frost but then again Piccolo was able to fire an attack in a short time that broke something Champa couldn't break so he was at a high power to say the least
Vegeta's next fight might tell a decent tale. Considering Vegeta at base can casually one shot kill Mystic Gohan level beings and he's trained over 3 years since then.
Originally posted by NewGuy01Gohan outright said he was equal to his full potential. And Gotenks cheapshotted him in the nuts. Considering he has nuts, I don't see anything wrong with that.
Who? That bony grey freak? Dude got stomped by both SSJ Gohan and Gotenks, there's no way he's stronger than Super Boo lol. If anything he should be closer to Frieza in Z, weaker most likely.
But yes, Frieza in Z can beat Piccolo who trained for years after being stronger than Android 17, and Gohan tapping into some of his potential before he does a hail marry that drains the piss out of him.
Multiple statements are meaningless. He was weaker than Frieza even though he effortlessly beat someone who 9 years ago was way stronger than Frieza in Piccolo.
What do you think is the more ridiculous statement on his power? That we use statements from Gohan or we just randomly assume he was weaker than 120 million?
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Gohan outright said he was equal to his full potential. And Gotenks cheapshotted him in the nuts. Considering he has nuts, I don't see anything wrong with that.But yes, Frieza in Z can beat Piccolo who trained for years after being stronger than Android 17, and Gohan tapping into some of his potential before he does a hail marry that drains the piss out of him.
Multiple statements are meaningless. He was weaker than Frieza even though he effortlessly beat someone who 9 years ago was way stronger than Frieza in Piccolo.
What do you think is the more ridiculous statement on his power? That we use statements from Gohan or we just randomly assume he was weaker than 120 million?
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It's undisputable. We was gold how powerful this guy is...don't know why people keep going against Gohan words when Gohan himself knew/knows how powerful he was.
Gohan outright said he was equal to his full potential.
He used Super Saiyan.
But yes, Frieza in Z can beat Piccolo who trained for years after being stronger than Android 17
As I recall, Super recently implied that Piccolo's abilities had also degenerated by the time of RoF. That's why he and Gohan were training together a couple episodes ago...
That we use statements from Gohan or we just randomly assume he was weaker than 120 million?
Gohan's pretty weak now, dude. He wasn't even sure he'd be able to turn into a Super Saiyan anymore; I harbor doubts that he's that much stronger as-is than the early series Super Saiyans or the kids.
Originally posted by ares834
Where does the notion that he doesn't use god ki in base come from?Beerus straight up says that power burns inside of him during their battle after SSG drops.
From what I'm seeing from the debates here, words of the Z fighters and anyone else outside of them doesn't matter.