while the con-Thor flying guy posted these:
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As far as I know, this is pretty much the only time he's been unable to fly without Mjolnir:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1310897-thorfall.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1310899-thorfall2.jpg
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There are many examples that explicitly state or show that Thor needs Mjolnir to fly.
Took a little time to dig these out. Well, here ya go:
From Infinity #2:
http://i.imgur.com/OaelvYH.jpgDunno which issue this is from:
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/11-30-100110copy.jpg
From Contest of Champions II #3:
http://i.imgur.com/5F3J0sb.jpg
From Astonishing Thor #1:
http://www.thecomicbooknerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/prv7015_pg4.jpg
http://www.thecomicbooknerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/prv7015_pg5.jpg
From Longshot saves the Marvel Universe #2:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094442/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-018.jpg.html
These are the best references. The others he isn't flying; I'll address them in a moment.
The Astonishing Thor scans don't clearly show him flying without Mjolnir. He throws the hammer, yes, but did he maintain altitude or begin to fall after releasing the hammer? I'd have to look for it, but I recall an instance under Lee where Thor hurled Mjolnir and was falling until it returned to him.
(Anyone know if Astonishing Thor is canon?)
If we accept that Thor must have Mjolnir out in front of him to be using it for flight*, you have maybe four references of Thor flying without the hammer. (The one for which you don't know the issue is also Astonishing Thor #1, if I'm not mistaken.) There are many more references that he cannot fly without the hammer.
* Stan Lee, who established Thor's reliance on Mjolnir for flight, wrote scenes like this one where Thor remained airborne with the hammer dangling from his wrist. (Which likely is due more to the artist; I doubt Stan was that specific about Mjolnir's position.)
From Thor #281:
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/48/68/57/thordu16.jpg
He isn't flying. He and Space Phantom were in Limbo, where physical laws are much different. They were just standing on fog before leaping to the planet below. In the next issue, Thor had to leap from the surface of the planet, which would have been unnecessary if he were able to fly.
From Thor: Whom The Gods Would Destroy:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir116-SpeedWhomtheGodsWoul.jpgAvsX #4:
http://i.imgur.com/X8rbS8V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qWw8uOV.jpg
He's floating in outer space in these, not flying.
From Journey into Mystery #115:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122199/3311715-flywithoutmjolnirspace2.jpegFrom Thor #164:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111121459/3425745-thor+flying+without+mjolnir.jpg
The latter scan is actually from Thor #162. In both of these, he's being sent back to Midgard, not flying under his own power. The Warriors Three and Balder have been shown "flying" around in the same manner. Under Stan Lee, Thor definitely could not fly.
JiM #116: http://i58.tinypic.com/f44inc.jpg
Thor #167: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Thor_167_18.jpg
Thor #164: http://tinypic.com/m/iomck6/1
Thor #184: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Thor184-05.jpg
Other references:
JiM #83-- Thor: "I release my whirling hammer for a split-second, catching the unbreakable thong, and then-- I am pulled along after it like the tail of a rocket!!" (This type of thing is repeated in the first few issues to tell readers how Thor flies.)
JiM #86-- Narration: "Pulled aloft by his soaring hammer, Thor flies from the desert to a distant mountain range..."
JiM #88-- Narration: "Minutes later, a godlike figure hurles his hammer into the sky, flying after it as he grips the leather thong with fingers of steel!"
JiM #99-- Thor: "As Don Blake, mortal, I was force to fall towards the ground... but as mighty Thor, the God of Thunder, with the aid of my enchanted hammer, I can land safely by flying!"
There are a lot more references for Thor needing Mjolnir to fly if we get into a full discussion over it.
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One more instance. I know that this is Thor with Leader's powers, but still, is there anything you want to say about it Jon?
From Incredible Hulk #440:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23200943/Thorfly.jpg.html
I'm assuming it's about whether Thor was at full power.
Thor was able to fight the Hulk evenly and even had a brief stalemate in a test of strength. That indicates that he's at full strength.
In Thor #497, Thor says that all his powers were returned. Nothing about diminished power.
Peter David said that when he began the storyline, it was his intention to end with a Thor/Hulk battle. He did not expect that Thor's power would be stripped from him, so he used Omnibus to restore Thor's power so he could end the story as envisioned.
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Re-reading the thread, I see now you're talking about whether this is an example of Thor flying without the hammer.
Nah. He's being bounced into the air as Hulk bursts through the ice. It's too big of a coincidence that Hulk is coming up right below him when a moment before Thor was on hands and knees.
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Guess.. I... was... wrong.
