Originally posted by FrothByteMeh, he wasn't really harming Ultron at all. He was noticeably out of breath and getting his ass kicked near the end. Ultron only left because the twins stepped in to help and Ultron knew how powerful Wanda could be. Also, that whole scene was PIS.
Actually, Cap vs. Ultron in AoU makes a good case for Cap.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Meh, he wasn't really harming Ultron at all. He was noticeably out of breath and getting his ass kicked near the end. Ultron only left because the twins stepped in to help and Ultron knew how powerful Wanda could be. Also, that whole scene was PIS.
Yes but Ultron had flight and full powers there. For Cap to keep up for so long speaks volumes. IM doesn't have flight or weapons here.
Originally posted by FrothByteTrue, but most of them are arguing that Cap doesn't have the offensive output to hurt Tony. I think everyone knows he'd be dancing around and dominating the fight for the most part.
Yes but Ultron had flight and full powers there. For Cap to keep up for so long speaks volumes. IM doesn't have flight or weapons here.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
True, but most of them are arguing that Cap doesn't have the offensive output to hurt Tony. I think everyone knows he'd be dancing around and dominating the fight for the most part.
Why I said at best stalemate Cap can't hurt Iron Man but Iron Man can't hit Capt. Can Tony get help from Jarvis to anticipate Cap's hits or moves?
Originally posted by Darth TruculentStark didn't kill Rogers. Vision rendered Starks suit powerless, like in this fight. Then Cap almost killed him. After that, Cap was stopped by some civilians, and seeing them against him caused him to turn himself in, ending the war. He was then assassinated by Crossbones who shot him in the head with a Sniper.
Read the comic . . . Stark killed Rodgers. Sorry about the spoiler, but Disney changed the storyline. Bastards.
I just watched Ironman 1 again yesterday. A few things...
Ironman was 1 shoting soldiers probably killed a few with 1 swipe/punch.
His mark2 suit survived being hit with a tank round, being run over by a car, being hit with a car by Iron monger, being shot at with high caliber rounds, busted though concrete walls with no issue.
Lifted a car with almost no power left in his suit.
Iron man 3 , Tonys suits fell apart if the bad guys threw pebbles at them.
Holy shit the CAP fanboys are really out this time LOL. Iron Man would literally poop on him with LITTLE effort. Did you people miss Iron man going h2h with the Hulk?? Yet somehow he's going to struggle with Cap LMAO. Jesus... it's almost comical now. Iron Man's suit will mean Cap can't hurt him.. but he can certainly hurt Cap being VASTLY stronger than him. If WS can grab his shield from him.. what do you think somebody who poops on WS strength can do? Besides Grab is easily? It's hilarious to even think Cap has a chance here.. he gets crushed.
Any movie not out counts for nothing. They are inadmissible as evidence. We only go by what we can see and have seen. In which case, IM stomps and literally stomps without even breaking a sweat. If any movie comes out with Cap winning and IM was at full power can only be viewed as PIS. To even argue otherwise considering IM feats in all his appearances is comical.
To the people saying IM is going to get "danced around" by Cap are hilarious. I've had to post these Hulk feats before.. But he's incredible fast.. faster than Cap and moves around more freely in open areas thanks to him being able to jump almost exponentially further than Cap. Watch hulks speed. Notice the scene where he's seemingly 40 feet away from IM and then in a blink he's on him. Cap is clearly more skilled than IM in h2h combat with two guys standing in one place sparring and basically only kicking and punching. Even then Cap would get slaughtered as soon as IM landed a few blows.. and he would eventually. However, more importantly why would IM fight like that in such a static sparring scenario? He's a fing genius for **** sake. He's not going to do such a thing. He'll know, and should know unless PIS exactly how to fight Cap. It would never look like that. Thanks to this not being a movie, and IM isn't nerfed to fight like some moron who will take longer to put it in Cap's butt than if he fights smart... it's a forum.. IM won't fight like that and destroy Cap.