Originally posted by riv6672
Superboy says he's moving worlds from a galaxy in that scan.
That oddly named fellow above you says PC Marvels move the galaxies themselves...
Originally posted by a88378438Well, that's like me saying that Superboy Prime moved the entire Universe. He did, but pieces at a time and it took him a while.
No,I see them,but it's need took them a long time to move entire galaxy(billlion of StarS)
Pre-Crisis Superboy on the other hand just chained an entire galaxy's worth of planets and moved them across the entire Universe. That's.... orders of magnitude more impressive.
The Marvels DID NOT move a galaxy. Let's cut the crap on that first off.
Billy, Mary, and Freddie were trying to stop the collision of two galaxies, and they tried to do it by pushing each individual star off course, and after maybe a dozen or so stars they realized it was futile and they wouldn't have the time to do it that way.
As far as the giant star moving, here's how they line up by my estimation:
-Fawcett Captain Marvel moved a giant dead star. In Fawcett comics, stars were giantic space rocks that were on fire, so Fawcett comic stars are much heavier than actual ones. Cap pushed the star massively faster than light, such that an astronomer could tell with a telescope that it moved. If our own Sun was moving at merely lightspeed, it would look like its going extremely slow: it would take it almost 5 seconds to cross one diameter length.
-Supes moved a giant star, which wasn't dead--so we can't tell if it was a Giant flaming rock or a giant flaming ball of hydrogen like a normal one. We'd have to assume the latter without any more info. Regardless, he didn't seem to move it as far as Cap moved his, but he did only use his god-damn breath, and it would still have to be moving FTL as well to have any noticeable movement at all.
If the Earth were the same size as the Sun, it would only outweigh the Sun by about 4 times, so Fawcett stars being giant rocks on fire, probably wouldn't add enough to the feat to beat out the fact that Superman used only his damn breath to move a giant star.
Regardless, Superboy did move an entire galaxy worth of planets, so that trumps any celestial body moving the Marvels did.
PC Supes is way faster too. Cap of course has the awesome speed feat of rebuilding an entire planet, fragment by fragment with his bare hands in a panel (which shits on wally's nuke evacuation feat). But PC Supes had a similar feat shared with Vartox, except for them the planet's remains were spread all over the cosmos, and not just contained in the same solar system.
Interestingly, after they snapped out of the spell forcing them to have their first big fight, it was Superman who used his super speed to do a "affect Earth by flying really fast" feat, ala akin to when he turned back time in the movie... and it was done on Cap's Earth, where he should have been at full power.
That doesn't prove Superman is faster, but it was a golden opportunity to give Cap a good speed feat, given it was his own world and all. Instead, the supposedly weaker Supes (Because per the story, Cap = Supes OFF of his home universe, away from Rock of Eternity's power) does it.