Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Their respective powers in TK. You don't have to be just as powerful to defend just powerful enough. For instance Vader was weaker than Sidious, yet I don't think anyone here sees Sidious ragdolling Vader like that. I'm arguing for Dooku, just to make it clear.
Well yeah, that's because Vader's heavy as shit. No one wants to go through the trouble of picking up that ******.
Sidious would crush his artificial lungs, though.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well yeah, that's because Vader's heavy as shit. No one wants to go through the trouble of picking up that ******.Sidious would crush his artificial lungs, though.
I doubt his weight will matter here.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Seriously? Those two as Dooku tier force weilders, yea right. While I don't deny there power, cause they do have a lot of power in their own rights, Dooku is above them by a sizable margin.
You've just brought the wrath of the eldritch horror known as ILS down upon you. 🙂
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Examples?
She's stopped a lightsaber with a force bubble, she's survived an explosion that obliterated a blast door at point blank, she's healed people from near-death to full health in seconds, she defended against the First Sons telepathy and helped overcome his personality afterwards. I also wonder if her Shielding technique could do anything to Sidious'. She used it to cut off Vivicar's connection to his infected Jedi, maybe she could try to cut Sidious off from some of the shit he's connected to.
That's true that Sidious already ragdolled Dooku in the Force, but I think that Dooku's guard was lowered. Sidious was his master, and it was his right to punish him whenever he wanted. If Dooku would rise his guard, then it could be treat as a challange. Doubtful.
And it should be noted, that Yoda - ROTS Sidious more or less equal - wasn't able to stomp Dooku in the Force. And it should be pretty clear, that if he could, he would do that. Yoda wasn't that type of person that would risk millions lifes without reason.
Anyway, Revan is a bit stronger in the Force then Dooku, but still closer to him then to Sidious or Yoda. They both should be able to eliminate Sidious, until he will be able to catch either one of them off-guard at the begin of the fight. (like he did against Yoda).
Two against one is a great advantage at this level, and even Maul was ale to catch Sidious off-guard (in a longer version of their duel which I consider as a canon). Sidious was able to outmanuver Maul and free himself, but it would be much harder against Revn or even Dooku.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
And what stops him and Barsenthor to get caught by Sidious before they can react? Since he eclipses both?
Even Savage Opress managed to send Palpatine flying across an arena with a Force-push. Revan can obviously do better (much better).
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Revan has no quality support, hence team loses.
Barsen'thor III held his own against the mighty First Son in a confrontation between the two. Here are a few (quantifiable) showings:
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First Son was the most powerful manifestation of Valkorion after his Voice and even this manifestation demonstrated Palpatine TIER feats.
The Sith Emperor seeks to shape all things to his will. His Children, individuals infused with part of his being, have been scattered throughout the Republic, knowingly–or unknowingly–manipulating events to the Emperor’s advantage over the years. Above them all is the First Son of the Emperor, a master strategist placed within the Jedi Council itself. Cloaked in the identity of Master Syo Bakarn, the First Son has been hiding the Children from the Jedi for decades, playing a long game with the Republic. His actions suggest a man possessing remarkable patience, ruthlessness and power.
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Count Dooku is no pushover either. Of-course, he doesn't holds a candle to Palpatine on individual level but he wouldn't be a non-factor in a Strike Team based scenario.
Revan alone is superior to RotS Sidious. The quote aboust most powerful Sith doesn't stack up, since Revan isn't a Sith by that time, and Valkorion ceased to be.
Revan can ragdoll Satele, Marr, Beniko and a bunch of non-Sensitives at once repeatedly, Sidious's best feats are multiple tiers below. Sidious is only saved by that outdated quote about him being most powerful Sith by RotS, but he is still inferior.
Revan solos 10/10, with Barsen'thor (already superior to the likes of Exar Kun who was compared to Sidious by Luke) and Dooku it's an utter stomp. Sidious dies in 10 seconds.