The Immortal Emperors Run a Gauntlet

Started by Syndicate4 pages
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The only source I can think of where Sidious "razes a planet with FL" is Sithisis.

He does so to Coruscant whilst also transporting Luke to Byss.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/silver2467/blog/emperor-palpatinedarth-sidious-respect-thread/63101/

That's not lightning, that's a hyperspace wormhole lol.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's not lightning, that's a hyperspace wormhole lol.

It's a force storm which is made up of force energy.

Numerous Sith Lords from the ToR era are also capable of creating them simply to a lesser degree, their results being an onslaught of Sith lightning or force energies. I see Sidious's force storms being much the same except on a much grander scale.

It's still not lightning.

This is what I thought you were referring to, though: http://i.imgur.com/eqiYsOz.jpg

Whoops, double post.

It's not a single bolt as is normally seen with Sith Lightning but its a storm of energy destroying everything in its path. I believe it would classify under energy manipulation which Force Lightning falls under and thus I used it as a way to demonstrated Sidious's superiority in this regard.

If it's really a huge issue though I'll direct you to Sidious overpowering Galen Marek with his lightning. Galen Marek a being who had lightning strong enough to power an ore cannon that pierced through a Star Destroyer. I'd say that's marginally above Valkorian's own lightning feat.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's still not lightning.

This is what I thought you were referring to, though: http://i.imgur.com/eqiYsOz.jpg

Looks like really awesome fanart. Where's it from?

It's not a single bolt as is normally seen with Sith Lightning but its a storm of energy destroying everything in its path.

That's not really what it is.

Looks like really awesome fanart. Where's it from?

It's not fanart, it's from Sithisis. It's the same comic that shows Palpatine undergoing a ritual to maintain his normal appearance in the prequels.

Comparing standard FL with Force Storm is freaking hilarious. 🙂

Comparing an immensely weakened sub protag level Vitiate's feat to a Sidious feat is freaking hilarious. 🙂

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The only source I can think of where Sidious "razes a planet with FL" is Sithisis.

My bad. Didn't realize Syndicate was talking about Palpatine's lightning.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Comparing standard FL with Force Storm is freaking hilarious. 🙂

Comparing an immensely weakened sub protag level Vitiate feat to a Sidious feat is freaking hilarious. 🙂

And that's your right to think so. I provided an alternative feat below that for those of you who believe that.

*Shrug* It's what we've seen Vitiate do with TK. I noted he was weakened as well.

Edit: Honestly I believe Vitiate may be as strong as Sidious he doesn't have the feats as of yet though and we'd have to do some assuming if we wanted to say that.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's not really what it is.

It's not fanart, it's from Sithisis. It's the same comic that shows Palpatine undergoing a ritual to maintain his normal appearance in the prequels.

Like I said if you take major issue with it simply use the feat I provided below.

Cool.

Originally posted by Syndicate
And that's your right to think so. I provided an alternative feat below that for those of you who believe that.

It's hardly superior to Valkorion's lightning feat against Arcann given that Valkorion was weakened and channeling his power through an inferior vessel. Compared to when Valkorion at full power casually oneshotted Arcann. 🙂

Hell, I'm not sure it's even superior to Vitiate overwhelming Revan instantaneously with his FLS.

Originally posted by Syndicate
*Shrug* It's what we've seen Vitiate do with TK. I noted he was weakened as well.

Well if you were trying to convey Sidious's superiority, it didn't necessarily work.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It's hardly superior to Valkorion's lightning feat against Arcann given that Valkorion was weakened and channeling his power through an inferior vessel. Compared to when Valkorion at full power casually oneshotted Arcann. 🙂

Hell, I'm not sure it's even superior to Vitiate overwhelming Revan instantaneously with his FLS.

Well if you were trying to convey Sidious's superiority, it didn't necessarily work.

Well... That depends what you think of Arcann vs Galen Marek in regards to force power. I think you know my stance on that. Can you get me the quote for when Revan was overwhelmed? I've forgotten the context.

I'm really not. I don't think there's a huge margin of difference between the two either way.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It's hardly superior to Valkorion's lightning feat against Arcann given that Valkorion was weakened and channeling his power through an inferior vessel.

Valkorion didn't seem to think the Outlander was le inferior vessel tho

Even if you think Galen > Arcann in force power, I'd wager Valkorion dealt with Arcann much more easily than Sidious dealt with Galen.

"A dozen bolts of purple lightning arced from the Emperor towards him. Revan tried to draw them in, but the Emperor was infinitely more powerful than Darth Nyriss had ever been. Revan's body was engulfed in agony as the electricity coursed through his body."

Accept Valkorion into your heart. 🙂

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Valkorion didn't seem to think the Outlander was le inferior vessel tho

Well Valkorion also thinks Outlander willpower = his sooooo 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Even if you think Galen > Arcann in force power,

Wait, "even if"? As far as I'm aware that's commonly accepted as blatantly obvious fact.

One is an Emperor, the other is a 17 year old kid who died for a worthless cause. 🙂

Fair enough. He likely did.

😛 I already have. I like the guy quite a bit.

So we basically have Valkorian/Vitiate's best feat with lightning being beating both Revan and Arcann with lightning while Sidious did the same to Galen. While it's my belief Galen is more powerful then both Sidious likely had to expend more effort to defeat him then Vitiate did to defeat Revan or Arcann so it balances out.

In regards to TK if we're scaling Vitiate's own feats up from when he collapsed the temple in a weakened state he should be somewhere around Sidious.

Sidious still has the actual combat feats in regards to skills and physicals while Vitiate seems to be better in regards to esoteric force powers.

I can see why this is such a hotly debated topic.