How do you rate Saesee Tiin?

Started by JKBart2 pages

How do you rate Saesee Tiin?

Out of curiosity.

Lightsaber dueling only
* Who is the guy Saesee Tiin can defeat for the smallest majority possible here?
* Who is the guy that can defeat Saesee Tiin for the smallest majority only?
* Who is the guy that wins 10/10 against Saesee in a duel?

Force only
* Name one guy who can defeat Saesee Tiin in a Force only contest for 6/10 only. Environment - wreckage of Imperial Star Destroyer full of stuff.
* Name the lowest guy that can defeat Saesee 10/10 in those rules.

I rank him with the rest of the high council members. Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, Ki Adi Mundi, Agen Kolar, etc.

There's a huge gap between Ki-Adi and Agen tho.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I rank him with the rest of the high council members. Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, Ki Adi Mundi, Agen Kolar, etc.

I'd probably put him below everyone you mentioned as a duelist.

Re: How do you rate Saesee Tiin?

Originally posted by JKBart
Out of curiosity.

Lightsaber dueling only
* Who is the guy Saesee Tiin can defeat for the smallest majority possible here? Plo Koon
* Who is the guy that can defeat Saesee Tiin for the smallest majority only? Kit Fisto
* Who is the guy that wins 10/10 against Saesee in a duel? Sidious, Yoda, Vader, Krayt, Kun

Force only
* Name one guy who can defeat Saesee Tiin in a Force only contest for 6/10 only. Environment - wreckage of Imperial Star Destroyer full of stuff. Plo Koon
* Name the lowest guy that can defeat Saesee 10/10 in those rules. Nihl

How does Saesee defeat Plo Koon?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
How does Saesee defeat Plo Koon?

By causing fatal injuries. That's how it works generally.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
By causing fatal injuries. That's how it works generally.

lmao

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
By causing fatal injuries. That's how it works generally.

What puts him above Plo's level as a duelist?

"I have chosen four of our best. Master Tiin, Master Kolar, and Master Fisto are all here, in the Temple. They are preparing already."
—Revenge of the Sith

"Anakin, why? The Masters are the best of the Order. What can you possibly do?"
—Revenge of the Sith

Most of the Jedi are deployed on distant worlds, but Mace manages to assemble a trio of celebrated swordmasters to assist him in arresting Palpatine: Agen Kolar, a Zabrak known among the Jedi to strike first and ask questions later; Saesee Tiin, a solitary Iktotchi who has never chosen a Padawan learner; and Kit Fisto, Nautolan master of Form 1 lightsaber technique, who distinguished himself on Geonosis and Mon Calamari, and who partnered Mace in battling Grievous on Coruscant.
—The Complete Visual Dictionary

Now Obi-Wan did face him. "Palpatine faced Mace and Agen and Kit and Saesee - four of the greatest swordsmen our Order has ever produced. By himself. Even both of us together wouldn't have a chance."
—Revenge of the Sith

Okay, Saesee's one of the greatest duelists in the order. So is Plo. And of course Plo wasn't picked for the mission because he was on Cato Nemoidia at the time.

Are there any actual feats that Saesee has that are greater than or equal to Plo holding his own against Savage and Ventress?

He has no feats. But he is mentioned on the same page with guys who stomps Legends Vos, creams TCW Grievous etc.

Is it rock solid fact that Tiin is better than Plo? No, but you can't say for certainty the opposite either.

JKBart asked where I rank him, and that's where I do. You are welcome to rank him below Plo if you want.

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Maybe around Sora Bulq / Luminara Unduli level.

Implying they're around a similar level

I think it's a fair estimation to say he and Plo Koon are of similar level; their skillets and ability level are similar in general, so it's an easy comparison. Koon is wiser and has a more impressive track record though, so I tend to hold him in higher regard.

Yeah him Plo and Depa were mentioned alongside eachother in the same accolade once iirc

I'm not so sure about that, but I believe they were the three that Yoda schooled unarmed.

"I have chosen four of our best. Master Tiin, Master Kolar, and Master Fisto are all here, in the Temple. They are preparing already."
—Revenge of the Sith

One way to read that is "Four out of our best." With the best being, well, probably most of the council.

Frankly Shaak Ti gets better feats than most of the ones who went in. And of course, some of the best were completely elsewhere.

He's in a pretty ambiguous place, though you can generally tell who he'll definitely be able to defeat.