Originally posted by psycho gundam
This thread has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what's going on in the ownage thread at all
You're right, I'm sure it's a coincidence the person who loves Superman and dislikes Silver Surfer..posted a "Superman vs Silver Surfer" topic.
Personally if someone wants to bait that is fine, I just don't want to see that same person accusing others of baiting then, that is all.
Silver Surfer is the Herald of Heralds...the tier was created after him...nothing wrong with being less powerful than him. Love Thor and Gladiator but im not ashamed to say that both of them are below Surfer imo. Does this take away from either? No. This just tells us there are more powerful people out there. When it comes to moving into the high herald tier, Surfer is the person youre compared too.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂I'm not going to even participate in the discussion but somehow I'm baiting.
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We all know it's a bait thread because you're the Quarver of DC. I only left it open this long to see if anything actually came from it. Not gonna happen it seems.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not a mechanic either, but I can still recognize a flat tire.
Credit for being witty, but we do have a report function. Use it. Bringing up other posters tends to bite the person who does it in the ass more than it does the poster they're referring to.
I think Surfer's invulnerability is even 'harder' than Superman's: it more difficult to do even cosmetic damage. And Surfer's durability is more robust: he lacks explicit weaknesses and it's harder to end-run his invulnerability.
That being said, I think Superman may be tougher, and it's probably harder to actually put him down than Surfer.
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
I think Surfer's invulnerability is even 'harder' than Superman's: it more difficult to do even cosmetic damage. And Surfer's durability is more robust: he lacks explicit weaknesses and it's harder to end-run his invulnerability.
That being said, I think Superman may be tougher, and it's probably harder to actually put him down than Surfer.
Nothing really wrong with that assessment tbh.
Originally posted by carver9
Silver Surfer is the Herald of Heralds...the tier was created after him...nothing wrong with being less powerful than him. Love Thor and Gladiator but im not ashamed to say that both of them are below Surfer imo. Does this take away from either? No. This just tells us there are more powerful people out there. When it comes to moving into the high herald tier, Surfer is the person youre compared too.
Originally posted by Surtur
Exactly, it's not an insult to lose to Silver Surfer. He's an incredibly versatile cosmically powered hero. Nobody looks bad or weak if they can't defeat him.Superman as a character doesn't suffer one bit.
Originally posted by -Pr-
We all know it's a bait thread because you're the Quarver of DC. I only left it open this long to see if anything actually came from it. Not gonna happen it seems.Credit for being witty, but we do have a report function. Use it. Bringing up other posters tends to bite the person who does it in the ass more than it does the poster they're referring to.
I just opened this thread and I'm not even going to participate in the thread.
How's that even baiting?
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
I think Surfer's invulnerability is even 'harder' than Superman's: it more difficult to do even cosmetic damage. And Surfer's durability is more robust: he lacks explicit weaknesses and it's harder to end-run his invulnerability.
Yep, he was made to be able to survive most if not all hazards you might encounter in space.
I'd also argue Superman might not actually be harder to put down. Simply because he does have something Surfer doesn't: internal organs and stuff like that. When some of these are damaged it can take it's toll. I don't think Surfer has any bones to break, etc. I would also think it would leave Superman more vulnerable to things like pressure points then Surfer.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yep, he was made to be able to survive most if not all hazards you might encounter in space.I'd also argue Superman might not actually be harder to put down. Simply because he does have something Surfer doesn't: internal organs and stuff like that. When some of these are damaged it can take it's toll. I don't think Surfer has any bones to break, etc. I would also think it would leave Superman more vulnerable to things like pressure points then Surfer.
Maybe. But comics don't always work that way. I'd agree with Surfer being less vulnerable to things like pressure attacks or even having things broken. But I think Superman is going to take more punches from Thanos or Omega Beam blasts before going down than Surfer will.
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Maybe. But comics don't always work that way. I'd agree with Surfer being less vulnerable to things like pressure attacks or even having things broken. But I think Superman is going to take more punches from Thanos or Omega Beam blasts before going down than Surfer will.
I'd actually argue Surfer at least can handle energy attacks better then Superman can.
For whatever in-comics reason the writer of the day is using (or not), Superman often steps it up to a level beyond the typical elite top tier category in a way that Surfer less often does.
Superman doesn't always do this, and the extent to which he steps it up into trans territory varies greatly. His dynamism is difficult to factor into fights. But Surfer would never have ripped (or blasted) apart Doomsday like Superman did in the new 52. Surfer wouldn't have stood up to Darkseid, or fared as well versus any of the Doomsday versions. Surfer almost never gives Thanos much of a fight; I think Superman would often fall to Thanos as quickly, but there'd also be a lot of days where he'd give the Titan a much better fight than Surfer can.
Originally posted by Pillow BiterI disagree and if you went and broke this down statistically you'd be wrong. Thanos isn't Darkseid so any comparisons to these characters is irrelevant to the points being made. Surfer is more durable consistently this isn't about formidability at all.
For whatever in-comics reason the writer of the day is using (or not), Superman often steps it up to a level beyond the typical elite top tier category in a way that Surfer less often does.
Superman doesn't always do this, and the extent to which he steps it up into trans territory varies greatly. His dynamism is difficult to factor into fights. But Surfer would never have ripped (or blasted) apart Doomsday like Superman did in the new 52. Surfer wouldn't have stood up to Darkseid, or fared as well versus any of the Doomsday versions. Surfer almost never gives Thanos much of a fight; I think Superman would often fall to Thanos as quickly, but there'd also be a lot of days where he'd give the Titan a much better fight than Surfer can.