Darth Malgus vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi

Started by Syndicate3 pages
Syndicate Senior Member

Uh, what are you two talking about? I never said he broke out of anything. Just that he could have if he hadn't been caught off guard and he'd had a little more time.

Sinious Yo Da Best

That's still so pathetic compared to Malgus lol

Aurbere Senior Member
Originally posted by Syndicate
Uh, what are you two talking about? I never said he broke out of anything. Just that he could have if he hadn't been caught off guard and he'd had a little more time.

Should'a could'a would'a, Syndicate.

Syndicate Senior Member

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Aurbere Senior Member

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|King Joker| Your Excellency

Originally posted by Syndicate
Uh, what are you two talking about? I never said he broke out of anything. Just that he could have if he hadn't been caught off guard and he'd had a little more time.
Kenobi preparing to counter Dooku with the Force before he was in Dooku's grip doesn't mean he can actually break out of said grip once in it, which is what you claimed he could do when you said: "RotS Kenobi was capable of breaking out of one of Dooku's force grips given a few seconds." Hell, Kenobi calling on the Force in an attempt to counter Dooku doesn't necessarily mean that counter would have been successful, even if Kenobi was fast enough to respond.

cs_zoltan Senior Member

Aurb you should 10/10 go back to retirment.

The context is obviously implies that Kenobi could've broken out, or why even write that shit in the first place?

Aurbere Senior Member
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Aurb you should 10/10 go back to retirment.
The context is obviously implies that Kenobi could've broken out, or why even write that shit in the first place?

Proof or you're a liar.

NewGuy01 perpetual

Originally posted by Syndicate
Found it. 🙂

"He reached for the Force to counter Dooku, but the attack had been too sudden." - RotS Junior Novelization.

Ngl I wasn't aware of this, fair find. It's more or less just support for an idea that was already fairly obvious, though.

cs_zoltan Senior Member

Kenobi lowballing is real.

Look at their mother****ing individual feats and then read the quote again, and then tell me that Kenobi couldn't break out...

NewGuy01 perpetual

I'm not sure it's as much about breaking out as it is about stopping it from happening in the first place.

Syndicate Senior Member

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Kenobi lowballing is real.

Look at their mother****ing individual feats and then read the quote again, and then tell me that Kenobi couldn't break out...

Hey buddy. I believe he could have done it. Like you I don't think they would have stated that if he couldn't have.

|King Joker| Your Excellency

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm not sure it's as much about breaking out as it is about stopping it from happening in the first place.
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Fated Xtasy Kami

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Aurb you should 10/10 go back to retirment.

The context is obviously implies that Kenobi could've broken out, or why even write that shit in the first place?

Attempting to counter is very different from actually doing it, t'is fairly obvious that even if he had succeeded in countering, it would have done little more than cushion the damage, at the very best.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Sinious
Except he was able to do it instantly while kicking Anakin's ass.

Turns out if you exert all the energy you can at once, some amazing things can happen.
I can only imagine him being able to ragdoll Obi-Wan even quicker in 1v1. Even if I were to accept Malgus' inferiority to Dooku in the force, it is still clear that there isnt a significant gap between them. He has good lightning and TK feats against Leneer, not to mention a great speed feat.

That's nice. It still doesn't make him as powerful as Dooku. And his Lightning is nowhere near as impressive as you're trying to make it seem when it can be stopped by simple insulation.
Malgus in multiple occasions ragdolls Jedi and most of his impressive feats happen before his prime. Its ambiguous who FE Malgus fought, but that doesn't mean that he isn't capable of standing his ground against a strike team of 2 force users from either side. There are cutscenes that show Malgus TKing the strike team, after all.

There's also dialogue where Malgus gets solo'd, and this was well before said flashpoint was changed to the solo option being the "story mode." Sure, Malgus is impressive but saying, "Dooku did it so Malgus can too," is retarded.

JKBart Restricted

Lmao that's even a debate? Let me repeat


Obi-Wan is totally outmatched as a duelist. Malgus well before his prime was defeating Aryn, Jedi as fast as Obi-Wan and far more powerful. Prime Malgus was capable of combating Hero of Tython with the aid of Barsen'thor and two greatest non-Sensitive warriors of the Republic.

Hero of Tython alone is combatant superior to Obi-Wan by a whole tier - blitzing Sith warriors superior to Bela Kiwiks, his saber ability trumping Lord Praven way before his prime, with Lord Praven defeating one of the best duelists of the Order at this time. So basically Praven and Obi-Wan are comparable, and you have Hero of Tython superior to Obi-Wan tier even before Chapter 2 of TOR.

Malgus gave a hell of the fight to HoT's superior version supported by equally great Jedi in the person of Barsen'thor, and two of the greatest warriors galaxy ever saw (Smuggler & Trooper). Obi-Wan doesn't stand a chance as a duelist, he will be absolutely crushed by Malgus in a duel.

And let's not even mention Force powers. Malgus was capable of effortlessly choking three members of the strike team at the same time, continuing the lightsaber fight in the meantime. One of them was HoT, who could defend against Vitiate's Force power long enough to prevail with lightsaber. And Malgus was still capable of choking him effortlessly in the meantime of a duel.

Malgus utterly stomps. Darth Caedus vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi would be a closer fight.

lol